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Reply #15 –
Quote from: Billyf17;112981
And for those "stupid" lawsuits you people are refering to, the judge decides what is stupid and renders his/her verdict accordingly.


Two words

McDonalds Coffee

:wtf:
1980 birds X 3, 1982 bird, 1984 XR7, 1988 TC

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Reply #16 –
People are rather heartless these days. If i hit someones dog, i would take the dog to the owners if the dog had a tag with the name/address/phone number. Depending on the damages, id either foot the bill, or at least try to have them partially compensate me.

You have to think, if youre observant while you drive, youll notice a dog just walking around, and when i see things like that, i get on edge and slow down. Paying attention could very well prevent most of these situations.

Minivan driver was probably speeding, and on his cell phone, or something similar. It had to have been a somewhat large dog to cause that much damage to require repair from the insurance company.
It's Gumby's fault.

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Reply #17 –
Quote from: Tbird232ci;112992


You have to think, if youre observant while you drive, youll notice a dog just walking around, and when i see things like that, i get on edge and slow down. Paying attention could very well prevent most of these situations.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Theres no telling how fast this guy was going, what he was doing or whatever. You can't trust his word as to what he posts online considering nobody that reads it was with him and could have a view on the situation. Obviously he is going to make himself the innocent victim.

Considering he wants to go after the owner for damages, maybe he was hoping the dog would run infront of him or he didn't do anything to try to avoid it so he could get something out of the situation.


Quote from: tbirdscott
Two words

McDonalds Coffee

That entire thing  me off. I wonder if I go to McDonalds and spill a cold cup of pen 15e on my lap if I can go after them for the pen 15e being too cold or sticky.:pbb:

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Reply #18 –
Quote from: tbirdscott;112985
Two words

McDonalds Coffee

:wtf:


Umm...the sentence before that one clearly points out that I do not agree with those lawsuits....those are just people finding loop holes to make easy money.  These people just have nothing better to do and have the money to begin with to hire a lawyer to handle everything.  Cases involving things like the dog incident do not require a lawyer in court, but going to a lawyer for legal advice on what to do in this situation is an option.

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Reply #19 –
Only americans think of lawsuits for every  reason. I got pissed at just the fact that someone is even considering suing someone else cuz their dog ran out in front of them. that's just childish. My dad used to drive a city bus.. a dog once ran out and he had to hit it.. did he go and sue the owner of the dog because the dog put the lives of many passengers on board in jeopardy? I dont think so. People just need to stop with this lawsuit bullshiznit.

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Reply #20 –
:iagree:

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Reply #21 –
Quote from: Billyf17;112981
Yeah it sure is a sick society that people don't have to control their property and it can wreak havoc on other people's property and cause hundreds or thousands of dollars in damages.  Thunder Chicken has it right.  The owner of the dog is fully responcible for the dog.  If it gets loose and causes a car accident, it's the owner's fault.  End of story.

The society we live in is messed up...with corrupt political leaders, out of control corporations, and such, but not because people have to sue for money they are LEGALLY entitled to.  You wrong me by damaging my car because you back into it, you run a red light, or your dog jumped a fence and ran out into the road, I am entitled to be in the same position I was in before your negligence.

A recent case on the People's Court pops into my head.  A dog jumped the fence and was attacked by another dog.  The owner of the fence jumper sued the other dog's owner and LOST because the fence couldn't contain the dog.  The judge's own words were that his negligence for not having a fence that could contain his dog and not having the dog on a leash caused his dog the injuries it suffered and the other dog's owner WAS NOT responcible for the vet bills.  It would be the exact same verdict in this case.

It's the way the laws are written...to protect the innocent party.  If you can't live with that in this "sick" society, you are free to leave and live in a place where you have to eat your bills from damages caused by your neighbor.  The case you should be worried about are the cases involving less than $100 dollars and the cases awarding hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars to stupid people, not legitamate cases like this.  Negligence is on the rise, not stupid reasons to sue people.  And for those "stupid" lawsuits you people are refering to, the judge decides what is stupid and renders his/her verdict accordingly.


If I had the money to move, and didn't have any remaining family here to worry about, I would indeed move in a heartbeat. Some little corner of New Zealand, most likely.. where I would be much less likely to run into people like this. That's the thing about these "if you don't like it, leave" statements.. people like you never bother to think that the other person may have such concerns. You lack empathy.. and for that I truly pity you.

Thanks for pointing out one of the reasons I think this society is sick.. the entitlement mentality. That you defend it so vigorously says a lot about you in my book.

My dad once had to bury one of our cats that got hit by a truck. It was one of the few times I ever saw my father cry while describing how the cat's eye was hanging out of its socket. As if losing the cat wasn't disturbing enough, seeing him crying was just that much more unsettling to me. If the person who hit the cat had then turned around and sued us for whatever reason, quite frankly my father would have killed them.. and I'd have never thought less of him for it. Anyone he may have killed in Nam, he would've killed for less personal reasons (excluding self-preservation) than that.

We love our pets like members of the family. Some idiot blathering on about what they're entitled to probably never had a pet to show love to.. or is probably such a heartless tightwad materially-obsessed scumbag that a few hundred bucks is more important than the emotional scars they've left that still hurt 15 or 20 years later.. and the further scars their hideous actions would cause. Frankly, I'd rather have the pet still in the world than people like that.

Pets get loose now and again. It just happens. If you hit one of our pets and then turned around and sued us for damages to your f'n car.. well, if I didn't shoot you, one of my friends probably would.

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Reply #22 –
:iagree:

2003 Triumph Speed Four
1992 Dnepr MT-11 30rwhp "Gracie"

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Reply #23 –
Yeah what people realise is that pets are like family members to some.. if let's say a Kid ran out in front of the car and damaged the car.. would you sue the family for having the kid run out in front of the car? I don't think so.. so why in the hell is it different when a pet goes in front? honestly.. Deaf kids.. blind kids.. handicapped kids sometimes can't be controlled just like some dogs.. not all dogs are intelligent enough not to run on the street for whatever reason.. should the owner be punished for that? especially if they loved that pet as if it was their kid? and then some asshole runs it over and sues them? I agree with Ben.. I would probably feel like killing the asshole who tries to sue me for that.

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Reply #24 –
here is the original post, copied from the site. read the ORIGINAL post then chime in.



Hey everyone. I've never been to court before (other than jury duty) but I will be going on Monday morning and filing a claim against a you know what "hole" because he couldn't restrain his dog and as a result, I now have $1,000 worth of damages to my 2 year old van.

Last Tuesday my 8 year old daughter got "student of the week" at school so we decided to take her to the local mall to get her a small reward. Instead of taking our highway, I decided to take the more scenic route (4 lane road, 2 lanes in each direction) as we weren't in a hurry and there's more to look at on this road. The speed limit is 50 mph and I'd be surprised if I was even going 50.

Out of nowhere, a huge old dog walks directly out in front of me and WHAM!, CRASH!, BAM!, I hit him solid - twice. Instantly, my wife and kids are crying and yelling at me to pull over (I couldn't because there was another car beside me.) I let the other car pass me on my right and finally managed to pull into a liquor store where I got out and called the Police. I then looked at my '04 Ford Freestar's front bumper and noticed that it's totalled.

The Police came and advised me to fill out an 3 accident reports and submit them. Then they went next door to an animal hospital and had the doctor come out to remove the dog from the roadway. He was DOA.

Here's where the story gets totally messed up. I submitted my accident report to my insurance agent the next day and she said that they would fix it but that I'd have to come up with $500.00 for my deductible unless I could get the dog's owner to pay for it. I then went to 3 different Body shops and they all gave written estimates to repair the damage in the $990.00-$1,050.00 range. After thinking about it for a day or so, I realized that I shouldn't have to pay anything as I did nothing wrong. There is a leash law in his town and he failed to "contain his dog at all times." I also don't want to part with $500.00 when I need it for Christmas Presents.

Well, now I go to the animal hospital and speak to the doctor. He knows the dog well as it's always in his trash and he's worked on it in the past. He also let me know that the dog is always on the run and constantly running through traffic. From there, he tells me the name of the owner and gives me his address and phone number.

I contacted the owner and as polite as I can be, I let him know how sorry I felt for his loss and that there was nothing that I could have done. He told me that the dog was old and senile and that he "got away from his son" during their walk. The son then went home. From there, I let him know about my damaged van and explained the whole situation (again, as nice as I could be.) He let me know that he didn't have $500.00 either, so I replied that we could file a claim with his homeowner's insurance (that's what my agent advised me to do.) He said he'd check on it and call me back.

Well, two days passed and I haven't heard anything so I called him tonight. He began ranting and raving on the phone and threatened that if I called him again, there would be consequences rendered. I let him know that I'd see him in court and he hung up on me.

Am I asking for too much? I mean, I feel for the dog but it's not my fault that they let him out. Should I accept $500.00 out of my pocket when they're clearly the ones at fault? I feel that I'm not asking for too much. All I want is that my van gets fixed to the same condition that it was in prior to the accident.

Has anyone else had to sue someone before? How does it all work? I'm going to the courthouse on Monday morning and I'm going to file a lawsuit for the $1,000.00. I just want what's fair.

Oh, sorry for the length. I think this is my longest post ever.
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Reply #25 –
Hmmm...in Jan. 1996 I washiznit on the driver's side front fender by a kid who ran a stop sign. The insurance company was very close to totalling out the car (the old black '86) but we negotiated to help rebuild it using my parts. So part of the car was in really good shape for most of 1996.

Fast forward to Nov. 1996...I was coming home at night down a windy road with some very, very light snowflakes in the air, nothing accumulating, and nobody else on the road at all. As I came around a corner, there was Marmaduke standing in the middle of the road. At first I thought it was a deer...then I realized it was way too ugly to be a deer. ;) Anyway, in a split-second decision I swerved to completely miss the dog, because he definitely would have crunched up my recently-fixed front end (and probably have gone through the windshield right at me, with my luck). Ended up on the other side of the road, in the ditch...the front bumper hit a culvert. The entire driver's side of the car was in the ditch, totally f'ed up--including all the stuff the body shop just fixed. Bumper cover was done in, along with the front air dam. I was okay, but as I rummaged through the trunk to get my tire iron and, um, gently say hello to poochie, he took off into the woods. F&%*er.

When the police arrived, I was filing the report with the officer in the police car. He was a really cool dude, amazingly. I made a comment that there was a lot of bass kicking out of the stock radio in the cop car (newer Caprice) and he said, "Yeah, it sounds really good...but , this 350 is amazing...lots of power, lots of fun!" Well, it was small talk because I thought for sure that nobody would believe me ("Sure officer, not my fault, there was this big dog, see..."). Plus I was going about 5 mph over the speed limit and readily admitted it. I wasn't kissing ass, just trying to show that I wasn't a hostile driver...anything at that point to get on his good side.

There was suddenly a knock on his window. He told me to hold still, and I saw him unsnap the clasp on his gun holster. He put the window down partway and shined his Mag-lite right in some dude's face. Dude asked the cop if anyone had seen a big dog that he was missing. Right then and there, I was vindicated! Thank you, Mr. Dumbass, whomever you are! The cop told him about the leash laws and he just walked away, but we found out where he lived (right across the street).

After I got a copy of the police report I contacted my attorney to see about pressing charges. He told me that "it wouldn't be worth anyone's time" to do it. I thought maybe there was something the insurance company could do...they pretty much advised me about the same thing. I was lost and hopeless. They were right. Then my buddy told me he knew the kid. And the kid had a Ford Ranger that he took to car shows. So I had the dude's name, knew where he lived, and knew what he drove. Also learned about his favorite hangouts.

And eventually...I "collected" from him. ;)

The point is that, even though there was a loose dog in a township with leash laws, the entire accident was largely in the realm of being "my" fault. I was the one that swerved and went into the ditch. Technically, if that dumbass hadn't helped me out, I might have been cited for failure to control the vehicle, speeding, and probably half a dozen other violations that Ohio cops like to tack onto any citation. And I knew that it was "my" fault, prepared all along to take full reponsibility. I was never charged with anything. But I never received monetary compensation for the damages either. Everything was in a big grey area, meaning things could have gone my way or against me. Flip a coin.

I think this dude's story is very compelling. I am definitely on his side as it seems that he did nothing wrong. And the vet's testimony that the dog was always loose could help him out in a big way. But...it could also stir up a lot of bad feelings if the vet is close to the dog's family since they are clients. He should probably just count his blessings that he and his family are safe, that no other humans or vehicles were injured, and that the minivan is still driveable. Ironically, it sounds like hitting the dog probably was in the best interest of the dog, with irresponsible owners like that. I hate to see animals die in such a violent way but...it happens, it was just a bad timing thing, that's all. The dog didn't deserve to be hit in exactly the same way that the driver's minivan didn't deserve to be damaged. I believe that's what's known as a tie. Pay to have it fixed, forget about the dog's owners and go on with life. All that litigation just isn't worth the hassle.

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Reply #26 –
Now THAT is the best  thing I've read in this thread all day.
(and BTW, musta been a helluva big dog to do a grand's worth of damage to a new van-wonder if the 'bags got popped?)
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #27 –
Quote from: EricCoolCats;113061
but as I rummaged through the trunk to get my tire iron and, um, gently say hello to poochie, he took off into the woods. F&%*er.


Un-****ing-believable. You mean to tell me you would beat an animal to death for the hideous crime of standing in the middle of the road, as if the dog is supposed to know that where it stands is a capital offense? Just when I was starting to develop an ounce of respect for you..

Dogs are not people. Dogs do not inherently know where they should and should not stand. YOU should know better than to expect the dog to know better by default.

If I saw someone doing that to an animal, I would do to them everything they did to that animal.

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Reply #28 –
Oh, well after reading his touching story the dog owner should pay for everything then after its all nice and fixed get down on his knees and....

His story doesnt flow, "Out of nowhere, a huge old dog walks directly out in front of me" it didnt run, it didnt bound, it didnt scamper, it didnt even jump out al nimbly bimbly, it WALKED out in front of him and he was in the inside lane of a 4 lane highway, how did he not see the "huge old dog"?

I still say he should suck it up and tell the kids they arent getting anything for christmas (which is another big scam, dont even get me started....) and fix the van, seriously $1000 isnt that hard to save up, cut out the starshmucks coffee and there you have a few hundred a month saved.


Quote from: FordTruckFreeek;113065
and BTW, musta been a helluva big dog to do a grand's worth of damage to a new van-wonder if the 'bags got popped?)


You see how big those bumper covers are? say $300 for a new bumper cover, $500 for paint and labour (colour match, 2-stage paint) tack on the taxes and your there, doesnt take much to add up.
1980 birds X 3, 1982 bird, 1984 XR7, 1988 TC

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Reply #29 –
I wouldn't have swerved, wouldn't have hit the ditch either...
Better a dog and bumper, than possibly my life. Yeah, it's an animal...but hey, shiznit happens, somebodies dog gets loose, and getshiznit..to me, well...shiznit happens.

And...I think he may have been joking...but in the heat of the moment, I'd have probably grabbed something large and heavy, and chased after Rover myself...whether or not I'd actually club it or not is debatable...

I feel like I've got a bit of room to speak here, as last week my best friend's house dog (who they let roam at will-no leash laws, etc) was almost killed by being hit by a car.

I laid in to them, told them they need to get a pen built, or be ready to take her ass out on a leash, so they wouldn't have a repeat. Too bad not all owners are so lucky.
I'm taking neither side here, (or trying not too)..while I'm not going to ask someone to deliberatley endanger theirselves by swerving around MY dog, should one of mine get loose, it would suck badly to lose one that way.
It's just a shiznitty situation, with no "easy way out"...i fail to see why dog's owner must pay for damages...much less the whole shebang, when the deductible is only 500 dollars....
I use the term: Abortion of Justice for shiznit like this...this will be a classic case if the guy does get that amount from the owner of the dog.
With that said, I can't wait to go deer hunting tomorrow! :grinno:
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)