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congealed radiator

I am looking  at a 83 3.8 that's beer  sitting  for a decade.  The inside  of the radiator  is rusted and congealed.  The car looks intact  aside from  the windshield.  The body looks straight  and rust free. Is it worth  $700 to purchase it?

congealed radiator

Reply #1
Yes and no. If thats what the radiator looks like, the engine is likely as bad or worse. When a car sits, rubber especially wears out. Bushings, seals, hoses ect are all toast.

If your planning on an emgine swap and basic upgrades, it would likely be a good candidate. You might get lucky and be able to reuse a bunch of stuff, but I wouldnt plan on it.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #2
What do you mean congealed? Do you mean the coolant has turned into something with a jello like consistency?
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #3
My crownvic did the same thing when I bought it. I drove it almost a year before I popped the radiator cap. My waterpump failed and was leaking coolant. When I pulled the pump off, the water vanes were all rusted off, as were the nipples for the bypass hoses. It didnt overheat till it started leaking.

I tried to flush it out with a hose and even through bleach in it for a few days and it still would randomly overheat. Several months in a row I could drive it several hundred miles a week without any issue. Then every once in a while it would start blowing brown rusty coolant. Id top it off, and it was fine again.

I basically traded the crown vic for my cougar.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

congealed radiator

Reply #4
Thanks  for the responses. Yes the antifreeze  turned jello like mixed  with rust.
I was honestly  thinking of passing on the car just based on the misleading  advertisp00get.  Although  on all used vehicles  I buy, I immediately  change rubber hoses and filters. The sheer expense to get this on the road even  as a back up car will be at minimum the asking price  of  it.

It is too bad the body, interior,  and frame look great.

congealed radiator

Reply #5
Is the "jello like" consistency a sign of a "stop leak" product being used sometime in the past?  I have never used them, so I don't honestly know.

congealed radiator

Reply #6
Could be stop leak/head gasket sealer, aren't those engines known for head gasket issues?

Swapped a radiator in my son in laws Silverado, it had stop leak in it and the radiator drain plug wouldnt even drain.  It was filled with some thick sludge black  that we eventually got through and drained and flushed the engine block.
Mike

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Reply #7
Quote from: BornInAFord;438754
Is the "jello like" consistency a sign of a "stop leak" product being used sometime in the past?  I have never used them, so I don't honestly know.

Possibly. Depends on what product was used.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

 

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Reply #8
Is there any ethanol in your fuel there? (I'm guessing there is)
If so, it's sat since the introduction of it, and I'll bet the fuel system/tank has rust issues inside somewhere...
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane