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A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #240
Quote from: fordguy545;417505
You could try one of those speedysleeve's.  Its pretty much a repair kit for the crank to repair the wear grooves in the sealing surface.  However, you probably have a brand new crank which should've been fine.  Just a thought

 
Good thought though!  It is a new crank and it looks spotless.  I've ordered the Fel-Pro "high pressure" two piece seal and it'll be here tomorrow.  I'll offset the seal ~1/2", ensuring the cap and the block lock together.  Once it's assembled, we'll fill it full of oil and flood the seal area again, by tilting the engine.  If it leaks, I'll be clueless on how to fix it, but at least I won't have to pull it again!

A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #241
If it leaks again try a 1 piece seal. Sucks that youve had to year that beauty apart so many times. Hope youre leakage issue gets resolved soon

A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #242
Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;417527
If it leaks again try a 1 piece seal. Sucks that youve had to year that beauty apart so many times. Hope youre leakage issue gets resolved soon

 
Thanks.  On the plus side, we are beginning to getting pretty good at the R&R! 

I've checked into the 1 piece option this morning.  The block would need to be machined to adapt it.  Cross that bridge if I come to it.

A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #243
you are siliconing the rear main bearing cap right?  I know that has made lots of people scratch their heads after multiple rear main changes.

88 t-bird tc - 14.97 @ 90  IHI 18 psi + k+n filter...so far - NOW HX-35 @25psi - 12.75@112    348rwhp/395rwtq
78 F-150 - 11.61@120 on 175shot N20 - 12.55@110 on motor - 5200# race weight:hick:

A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #244
Quote from: fordguy545;417536
you are siliconing the rear main bearing cap right?  I know that has made lots of people scratch their heads after multiple rear main changes.

 
Yup, it wasn't leaking were the cap joins the block.  Did the normal install tricks..., thought we had it licked the last time around.  The HP seal will be here tomorrow and we'll offset it and see if takes care of it.

A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #245
Good luck Mark....

May the force be with you... :)

Travis

A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #246
Oil leaks suck. Hopefully this fixes it :).
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #247
Put it back together last night.

Offset the seal, put RTV on the cap, installed studs for the pan & used pan rails, and then put two bottles of dye into the oil to make any leak would be easily visible with the black light.  Hung it up to flood the seal for ~40 minutes.  No leaks.

Reinstallation begins this afternoon.

The moral of the story:  On any rebuild, fill the crankcase full of oil, install the crank bolts and hang the engine at an angle to flood the rear main seal, BEFORE putting the engine in! 

Painful lesson in this case, but pain creates memories of what to avoid...

A side note on the studs for the oil pan:  Canton sell them for $10 though Summit.  They are a really cheap way to help seal an oil pan.


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Reply #249
As of last night, the engine & trans are in and the headers are on.  6 hours. The knowledge gleaned from the last two pulls greatly sped up the process.

The 1 3/4 Hooker Super Comp headers are a two man job (they're 3 pieces each).  One guy has to hold up top, while the other crawls under the car and fits the tubes in place.  Two other tricks to get them to bolt up.  Only use 3/4" bolts, anything longer binds on the tubes & pen 15s the bolts for a cross thread.  Tighten each bolt a little across the face of the . Pull one in too far and the rest of the bolts bind on the tubes, creating the potential for crossing the threads.  Finally, if the bolts still bind, the tubes have to be clearanced.  The first time I put these on, it took three days!

The trans when in from underneath with little issue this time.  Using an actual input shaft(as opposed to the plastic alignment tool provided in the clutch kit) to align the dual clutch discs and creating some 3" alignment dowels from bolts, made the job much easier. 

Now to find the time to do the easy stuff.

 

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Reply #250
Mark

I remember those big ass Long tubes....now I dont feel so bad about having to remove my 3.5" DP...I need to remove passenger header, turbo, then take the DP out from the bottom...its a super packaging problem.  Better be worth it...

Travis