can't pull KOER codes, and some strange KOEO codes

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can't pull KOER codes, and some strange KOEO codes

Reply #15 – March 04, 2012, 08:16:05 PM

Well I suspect that your rewireing is causing the N/S switch code and the KOER problem.
The question is, do you want to try to fix it?

Does your push button start go to the R/LB wire to the TFI to retard spark while cranking?

can't pull KOER codes, and some strange KOEO codes

Reply #16 – March 04, 2012, 08:20:05 PM

the push button is wired directly from an always hot fuse, to the button, then straight into the starter. What I SHOULD HAVE done, was wire the stock starter wire to the new small wire that goes to the starter, but I wanted to retain the remote starter capability of the push button.

Let me try that, I will temporarily rewire the stock starter wire, and crank it up with the switch, then see what happens.

can't pull KOER codes, and some strange KOEO codes

Reply #17 – March 05, 2012, 06:22:30 AM

Quote from: softtouch;382994

Tom, I had him switch from grounding the STI to jumpering STI to Sig Return for pulling codes to verify the Sig Return was good.
If Sig Return is blown, jumpering STI to Sig Return will not activate the self tests.

I know that. Some conversions from auto to stick will blow out the SIG RTN if not properly dun. Just saying. Seen a lot of Sig Rtn blown out in Fords!!

Have him check pin 30 for crank battery and ground from NSS.

can't pull KOER codes, and some strange KOEO codes

Reply #18 – March 05, 2012, 06:44:55 AM

When the ign switch is not in start and the transmission is in park or neutral, pin 30 "sees" ground through the N/S switch and the starter relay coil.

True but if that circuit was messed up the car would not crank. So the crank ckt is ok. His pin 30 is not connected or Has an open wire feeding the pin 30 on the ECM. Sounds like pin 30 is not seeing ground through the NSS and start solenoid winding. That is the only way the ECM can set a NSS CODE if i am correct!!

Check pin 30 for a ground when not cranking and a battery when cranking will tell that story real quick.

can't pull KOER codes, and some strange KOEO codes

Reply #19 – March 05, 2012, 01:05:56 PM

Quote from: TOM Renzo;383050

When the ign switch is not in start and the transmission is in park or neutral, pin 30 "sees" ground through the N/S switch and the starter relay coil.

True but if that circuit was messed up the car would not crank. So the crank ckt is ok. His pin 30 is not connected or Has an open wire feeding the pin 30 on the ECM. Sounds like pin 30 is not seeing ground through the NSS and start solenoid winding. That is the only way the ECM can set a NSS CODE if i am correct!!

Check pin 30 for a ground when not cranking and a battery when cranking will tell that story real quick.

Reread his post Tom.
He has disconnected the stock wiring to ths starter relay. He has a direct wire from his starter "push button" to his PMGR starter.
This leaves pin 30 floating and bypasses the N/S switch.

can't pull KOER codes, and some strange KOEO codes

Reply #20 – March 08, 2012, 04:47:23 PM

Do you can initialize KOEO?

this post is very interesting to my.

regards

can't pull KOER codes, and some strange KOEO codes

Reply #21 – March 08, 2012, 06:29:09 PM

Quote from: softtouch;383075

Reread his post Tom.
He has disconnected the stock wiring to ths starter relay. He has a direct wire from his starter "push button" to his PMGR starter.
This leaves pin 30 floating and bypasses the N/S switch.

That will set the code. No question about that. I actually did not understand what he was talking about. The way he wired it if i may is NOT something i would do. It seems kind of silly to wire it the way he did. Being as the car is an auto to begin with and the wiring should have been re- used.

can't pull KOER codes, and some strange KOEO codes

Reply #22 – March 08, 2012, 06:39:12 PM

OK soft read his post again. This is dangerous what he did. Being able to start the car in gear is CRAZY. All he had to do is use the original enable lead from the fender solenoid and retain his NSS switch on his new setup. This wiring he did eliminates the NSS and THAT IS BAD BIG TIME. Thanks for pointing that out. I did not read the post as carefully as i should have. If i was him i would wire a NSS in that circuit pr0nTO Before that car takes off on someone. Real dangerous to be BLUNT.

Soft correct Pin 30 swinging in the breeze no can do the codes KOER. Plain and simple. I will assume that is why ford did this to check the NSS for proper operation for SURE

Thanks next time i will read posts twice before answering. I totally miss read it . And assumed no one would eliminate an NSS. That is NUTS. Please excuse my language but that is extremely Dangerous.