Not starting after drive

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Not starting after drive

Reply #15 – September 30, 2014, 04:55:41 PM

That is how you shoot this issue. Have it conk out then check for spark and fuel one is missing.

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Reply #16 – September 30, 2014, 06:50:23 PM

Which is why I posted a link that shows how to tell EXACTLY which one it is. As well as which sensor/component that failed. My first time following that write up, I was done in less then 10 mins worth of trouble shooting and on my way to the parts store for the only thing that needed to be replaced.

y idiot can spray starting fluid and say yeah, its missing spark. Very few can tell you why.

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Reply #17 – October 04, 2014, 08:02:11 AM

Haystack - thanks for the link. I should have some time next week to troubleshoot and hopefully find out the problem.

J - it looks to me like the tfi is on the radiator and it is an 88.

Thanks for all the comments. At least I have direction to head in. Battery is new and cables seem fine.

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Reply #18 – October 04, 2014, 11:02:29 PM

good deal, as a result of this thread, I did not find the tfi up on the rad but I did score a few of the heat sync's in the process..... good luck

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Reply #19 – October 12, 2014, 06:02:54 AM

There is no problem with the fuel so I am guessing it might be the TFI. It is definitely in the no spark category. My neighbour who is pretty good with cars is also baffled with the problem.

People seem to recommend replacing the TFI/ppi. Is this referring to ignition control module and distributor pick up coil that I see on rock auto? Is there a better/cheaper place to get these parts.

Thanks.

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Reply #20 – October 12, 2014, 12:08:04 PM

Read:

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/products/86-93-Mustang-Distributor-Install

Darren

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Reply #21 – October 12, 2014, 04:52:11 PM

Interesting read. Mine has never ever stalled while driving and I have taken it on a several hour run. Seems like all the people with the TFI problems have experienced stalls.

I guess i need to spend more time troubleshooting or just be happy never shutting the car off while I am out. Or replace both the TFI and distributor.....

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Reply #22 – October 12, 2014, 06:19:12 PM

Mine did not stall when it went bad. This happened to me twice. Second time was an intermittent fuel pump issue. Replaced the TFI for the second time, then replaced the FP relay and neither fixed it. Replaced the FP and problem solved. Not saying this is your issue just sharing what fixed mine.

Darren

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Reply #23 – October 13, 2014, 12:00:43 AM

Which is why I posted a link THAT TELLS YOU HOW to trouble shoot the problem.grab a volt meter. Test light, a 18 pack and invite a few friends over for some wrenching. Even working slow it shouldnt take more then an hour to do every step.

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Reply #24 – October 13, 2014, 07:36:42 AM

Reading what Joel wrote over on sbftech would keep a guy from spending a lot of time and $$$. Wish I would have known about it when my coupe had all of its issues many a moon ago.

Darren

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Reply #25 – October 13, 2014, 07:39:55 PM

Basically you need to see if you lost spark or have no fuel. Otherwise it is a shoot. So when it happens be prepared to shoot the trouble. Your ears. Key the car does the pump run?? Use a screwdriver small Phillips to push in the schrader valve on the rail. Fuel comes out with some pressure?? Then use the same screwdriver to check spark. If it is not there replace Both The TFI and the PIP. Been doing this for years and it is cheap insurance. The failure rate of the PIP and TFI is very high. NOPE. But it all depends on the tune. Bad tune bang the TFI goes south!! Good tune it can be trouble free for many many years. Most TFI modules go south from heat??? NO most go bad from a bad tune or components. But it is always best to remote mount it with a giant heat sync. Good luck

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Reply #26 – October 13, 2014, 07:51:47 PM

paper clip and pulling codes first step....

these cars are pretty hard to break but when they do we get kind of spoiled and forget to do the basics.

anywhoooo
one thing I would consider checking even with a cold motor is at night, use a spare spark plug and ground the threads.
have a buddy crank and look at the spark,, if its not blue/white... it points to the TFI on your radiator or the pick up module inside the dizzy... but your codes will tell you that as well.

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Reply #27 – October 13, 2014, 09:27:26 PM

What codes would that BE> JAY

I have never seen a code 14 in my life with a bad PIP.
And there is no codes for no spark as far as i know. And none for fuel delivery.
And none for a bad TFI. Module

Have a great day

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Reply #28 – October 16, 2014, 10:49:57 AM

some sorta code should be triggered when the hard fail occurs....

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Reply #29 – October 16, 2014, 10:55:13 AM

For a hard fail where the car continues to run yes, but as Tom said not in those instances. I've been through enough TFI modules to confirm this in quite a few different Ford products. Funny thing is I've NEVER had a PIP go bad..... YET...... (I think I just jinxed myself :p )