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driveline vibrations

Reply #60
Quote from: 347Thunder;360728
I know you might not want to hear this but you gears might be setup wrong

 
They could be setup wrong, but I highly doubt it.  The guy that did them for me the last time is very good.  Most of his business is axles and driveline stuff for high performance applications (circle track, drag cars, etc).
'88 'bird, 10.9:1 306 w/TFS top end, forged rods/pistons, T-5 swap & bunch of other stuff, 1-family owned, had it since ‘98, 5.0tbrd88 on Instagram and YouTube

driveline vibrations

Reply #61
I'm going to guess a bent axle shaft or perhaps a bad rotor. That's got to be it. I have 3.73s and my drive shaft does not vibrate at all. I chased a vibration problem for a year or so till I found a bent passenger side axle. If the car was fine previous to the rear swap then it has to be the rear.

Just a FYI but if you have a bent axle I'm going to bet you'll need a new rotor and pads on the side with the bent axle. When I replaced the axle on mine I had to replace the drum and shoes on that side as well. Since the axle was bent it ended up egg shaping the inside of the drum.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

driveline vibrations

Reply #62
There was a bronze bushing inside the back of the tailshaft housing that when replaced helped some with a vibration, but it was an auto.
It might help to check lateral and radial runout to eliminate some components.
Also knowing what order the vibration is a possible way to eliminate some components.
It's been a long time since NVH class but I think there are 1st, 2nd and 3rd order of vibrations when dealing with vibrations in the majority of vehicles in locamotion. You may be able to use a simple small engine tachometer that measures frequency and then calculate what order the vibration is.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]88 t-bird: 5.0ho, gt40y, crane 2031, fms 1.7, paxton@5#, aod wide ratio, tci stall, performer rpm upper, 70mm bbk, pro m 60, 42#s, 3.73 7.5" posi, jba shorties, borla, upr x. 13.4 @ 104mph. cbaza, moates, tuned by decipha

driveline vibrations

Reply #63
Saturday I took off the rear wheels and spun the axles to check to see if they were bent.  From what I can tell they are fine.  The rotors and brake pads look perfect.  I did rotate the tires and it did not change the vibration at all.

I'm going to take her on power tour and just try to stay below 75 mph, that's where it really vibrates.  I really don't think its a bent axle...I'm wondering if maybe it has something to do with lowering the car so much.  I found this writeup and it really helped me understand the importance of u-joint angles, etc: http://www.hotrodhotline.com/md/html/drive_shaft_harmonics.php

Tomorrow I'm going to get the car on jackstands and check everything one more time with the driveshaft, pinion angle, etc.
'88 'bird, 10.9:1 306 w/TFS top end, forged rods/pistons, T-5 swap & bunch of other stuff, 1-family owned, had it since ‘98, 5.0tbrd88 on Instagram and YouTube

driveline vibrations

Reply #64
Quote from: 50tbrd88;360732
They could be setup wrong, but I highly doubt it.  The guy that did them for me the last time is very good.  Most of his business is axles and driveline stuff for high performance applications (circle track, drag cars, etc).

 
I hear ya, the guy that did my 3.73's did them perfect, but 8 years later the 4.33's were aweful, and he has done a lot of gears since then, also he is a good friend of mine, but even when I took him for a ride he said it was the drive shaft.
1986 T-bird
347 stroker motor
185 AFR Heads
TrickFlow cam 224/232-542/563
Victor Jr. intake CNC ported
Quickfuel Holley 800 cfm
Hooker 1-3/4 long tubes
Custom built AOD
B&M 3000 stall
8.8 w/4.30 gears
UPR K-member,A-Arms,and coil-overs
UPR upper/lower control arms
Strange shocks/struts
26x10x15 M/T slicks
11.48@119.27
(coming soon Tremec 3550)
The Finished Product
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/03grinnie/T-bird/

driveline vibrations

Reply #65
Just in case anyone finds this thread someday looking for answers to a similar problem--I did have a custom aluminum driveshaft made by Action Machine in South Bend, IN and the vibration is now gone.
'88 'bird, 10.9:1 306 w/TFS top end, forged rods/pistons, T-5 swap & bunch of other stuff, 1-family owned, had it since ‘98, 5.0tbrd88 on Instagram and YouTube

driveline vibrations

Reply #66
That was probably the best $300 you ever spent.lol
1986 T-bird
347 stroker motor
185 AFR Heads
TrickFlow cam 224/232-542/563
Victor Jr. intake CNC ported
Quickfuel Holley 800 cfm
Hooker 1-3/4 long tubes
Custom built AOD
B&M 3000 stall
8.8 w/4.30 gears
UPR K-member,A-Arms,and coil-overs
UPR upper/lower control arms
Strange shocks/struts
26x10x15 M/T slicks
11.48@119.27
(coming soon Tremec 3550)
The Finished Product
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/03grinnie/T-bird/

driveline vibrations

Reply #67
Quote from: 347Thunder;386966
That was probably the best $300 you ever spent.lol

 
I'm sure it was.. I had a 70 mph vibration problem too in my old tbird and it really made me hate driving the car.

Good Fix 50tbrd88!
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driveline vibrations

Reply #68
Thanks guys...the enjoyment level of driving the car has gone up with the new shaft!
'88 'bird, 10.9:1 306 w/TFS top end, forged rods/pistons, T-5 swap & bunch of other stuff, 1-family owned, had it since ‘98, 5.0tbrd88 on Instagram and YouTube

driveline vibrations

Reply #69
Hooray! I loathe vibration issues. I never liked my Merkur after going to a T5. I tried and tried but never got it totally smooth. That gearbox hated that chassis harmonically.

Driveshafts all flex, and the steel one must have had a 'bad' harmonic in your combo. the aluminum one must dampen that out, apparently.

Good thread! Sticky worthy?

driveline vibrations

Reply #70
You said "shaft"....

I can make fun of it now that that car is fixed.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

driveline vibrations

Reply #71
Quote from: 50tbrd88;386986
up with the new shaft!

 
he he he.:rollin:
Mike

driveline vibrations

Reply #72
I was about ready to give the whole car "the shaft" for awhile...it was that frustrating.  I'm glad that's all behind me now.
'88 'bird, 10.9:1 306 w/TFS top end, forged rods/pistons, T-5 swap & bunch of other stuff, 1-family owned, had it since ‘98, 5.0tbrd88 on Instagram and YouTube

 

driveline vibrations

Reply #73
Quote from: 50tbrd88;387032
I was about ready to give the whole car "the shaft" for awhile...it was that frustrating.  I'm glad that's all behind me now.
A vibration you can't find is the worst. I have one in my van that I've been chasing for years. I'm at the point of F it and just drive it till it rattles it self apart.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]:ford:87 Turbo Coupe through the floor sub frame connectors, 5.8 swap Ford racing heads Harland sharp 1.6 rockers BBK shorty swap headers 2 1/2 BBk X pipe magnaflow ler's. Megasquirt 2 with 36lbs injectors on hurricane intake with 4150 throttle body.Tremec TKO 600 Quicktime blowsheild spec stage 3 clutch. 3.73 gears and still not done