*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #75 – October 31, 2009, 05:04:22 PM Quote from: 86caprirs;296939Ok. I got the bug. I picked up a 96 5.8L engine. I am getting the pan from a 351w 85 Grand Marquie. I am useing the Bronco Adapter for now. I just want to get the engine runningin the car then modify it later. So I am going to put headers on, get a h pipe and cat back Magnaflow, a 89 distributer from a truck 351w,put on the adapter and toss the old 5.0L upper on, mass air for the 19's lbs and a A9L and do the wiring swap from a Non HO to a HO. I will stick with the truck cam for now.But I have to ask, what flywheel or flex plate do i need? I heard just to use the mid 80's Crown Vic one with the 351w.Is that right?Also how was the wiring for the computer? Did you have to change the wiring for the injectors or is that done through the pcm?I would go with the Crown Vic flex plate if staying AOD, if going with a T5 or TKO series then you'd need to order the Ford Racing flywheel(or equivalent). The 351 has the same firing order as the HO, so there is no need to fiddle around with re-pinning injectors. The only information you need on wiring is the MAF swap, which is quite simple, I just don't have mine laying around anymore.Quote from: 86caprirs;296939Oh and the A/C is the only problem you had with the hood clearance? ever thought of spacing your K-member like the big block swap guys do?I actually don't have a problem with hood clearance like I originally thought I would...as long as you're not using a T/C hood, you should be fine. I spaced my hood up at the hinges as a "just in case", but I have plenty of clearance and could probably let it down...I'm just lazy...lol.Quote from: 86caprirs;296939Thanks for the help to make me do this instead of the 460 swap.No problem buddy, that's what we're all here for.Good luck,Don Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #76 – October 31, 2009, 10:13:36 PM I am going to use the TC hood. Maybe I should delete the a/c then and find a power steering only?The Crown Vic flex plate is a 157 tooth and 28oz ballance right?I forgot to ask. Did you use the stock 5.0L engine mounts from the Tbird? Or did you make your own?Do you have pics of what you did to your intake?ThanksShane Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #77 – November 01, 2009, 04:13:15 PM I believe the AOD flexplates are all 164 tooth, I could be mistaken. As long as it's for a 5.8 Crown Vic then it'll have the correct 28oz imbalance and work with your AOD. I do not have any pics of what I did to my intake, but it's pretty simple with the right tools...just takes some time and work. Working over my upper plenum really woke my car up, increasing the usable RPM range by about 600-800rpm(still using stock HO throttle body). Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #78 – November 01, 2009, 05:21:00 PM See now I need to know that. I can get a 157 tooth or a 164 tooth 28oz flexplate. I just need to know which one now. Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #79 – November 03, 2009, 10:02:37 PM I heard that all aod flywheels are 164 tooth....even 5.0L ones? Can anyone verify this? Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #80 – November 03, 2009, 11:03:11 PM Quote from: 86caprirs;297516I heard that all aod flywheels are 164 tooth....even 5.0L ones? Can anyone verify this?That should be correct, flexplate size is dictated by the bellhousing and AFIK all AOD's are same... Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #81 – November 04, 2009, 12:20:11 AM what did you do to your intake?"HO intake cut open fully ported -3" of runner length"i'm not following Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #82 – November 04, 2009, 07:04:58 PM OK. So I do need a 164 tooth then. OOops. Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #83 – November 05, 2009, 06:54:43 PM Quote from: Dougy_Fresh;297531what did you do to your intake?"HO intake cut open fully ported -3" of runner length"i'm not followingHO intake cut open, 3" of internal runner cut out, fully ported and welded back together...it's a pretty simple thing to understand.I finally finished my "5.8 HO" beauty plate and got it on the car, I need to try to get a pic of that pretty soon.-Don Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #84 – November 07, 2009, 11:24:38 PM I want to see the intake and plate. Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #85 – November 08, 2009, 10:14:17 PM The intake looks like poop because I was very hasty in finishing it up and getting it on the car...I think the plate looks cool though...again, I will try to get a few pics up soon.-Don Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #86 – November 09, 2009, 09:58:17 PM Quote from: Sick88Tbird;297739HO intake cut open, 3" of internal runner cut out, fully ported and welded back together...it's a pretty simple thing to understand.I finally finished my "5.8 HO" beauty plate and got it on the car, I need to try to get a pic of that pretty soon.-DonI am sorta following you but I am guessing you cut the end opposite to the throttle body. You cut it front to back. Then you ground down the individual runners back into the intake towards the throttle body so that there was a bigger area of space there for the air? Am I close or make absolutly no sence? Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #87 – November 16, 2009, 05:50:04 PM I cut the plenum "box" section off(opposite the throttle body) and hogged out the ports as well as removing the port walls in the plenum section...it works out to about 3" less runner length and adds to the overall plenum volume. I also spent a LOT of time on the "throat" of the intake(the tube running from the throttle body to the plenum). There is a lot of room in these things for porting but no matter how you cut it, it's still an HO intake...you won't make any miracles happen...but it did extend my usable RPM range by a solid 800rpm or so.We're probably saying the same thing about the intake, just in different words...lol.Good luck,Don Quote Selected
*PICS* Just finished 351W swap...PICS ADDED!!!! Reply #88 – November 16, 2009, 09:17:53 PM Yes we are. Next time I will try to use pics. LOLThanks Quote Selected
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