electric turbo May 08, 2006, 11:59:16 PM does anyone know where i would hook up one of those electric turbos just to screw around on a carbbed car? Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #2 – May 09, 2006, 12:35:39 AM I cant believe you just asked that... but since you did pick up a tornado to go along with it, will work much better.PS. Pick up some of those gas mielage pills for your gas tank while your at it Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #3 – May 09, 2006, 01:37:49 PM Don't waste your money on that stuff. Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #4 – May 09, 2006, 03:11:35 PM Quote from: 87fordboydoes anyone know where i would hook up one of those electric turbos just to screw around on a carbbed car?Best way to do somethin like this...get a reallllly long extension cord, and a shop vac...that's the best bet, yo... :flame: Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #5 – May 09, 2006, 03:59:01 PM he said just to f* around with. iv done it before, but the electric ones suck, as said before if you want to realy be retarded use a leaf blower. the thing about them is tho, that none of them actualy compress the air, they just force it and not much at that. at idol it will stall and at wide open throttle it will make it kinda faster. a friend of mine hooked up a inverter and leafblower and it added MPH but no didnt change the ET. but like you said, its just being retarded which is fun once and a while. Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #6 – May 09, 2006, 04:00:30 PM route ur smog pump to your air inlet tube before your throttle body :rolleyes: Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #7 – May 09, 2006, 05:30:56 PM here yah go... http://www.boosthead.com/home.php Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #8 – May 09, 2006, 07:00:38 PM that looks like it actualy compresses the air too... but for 1700$ you could buy a actual turbo or supercharger. Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #9 – May 09, 2006, 09:40:52 PM I've said it many, many times before: Those electric "turbochargers" simply do not work. Even if they could move the 400+ CFM of air that your engine sucks in at WOT, they could never do so under any sort of boost. They might, and I stress the word might, offer a little tiny almost immeasurable bit of boost at idle and slightly off idle, but boost at idle is absolutely pointless . You do not need the extra power at idle, and even if you did, there are far easier ways of producing that power, such as, well, opening the throttle a bit. Anything over idle those "blowers" would actually become a restriction - you'd be sucking air faster than the blower can push it, effectively using the incoming air to spin the "turbine" faster, which of course takes energy, which means it's a restriction.Can an electric turbo work? In theory, yes, but not those "turbonators". An electric turbocharger that actually works (in other words, it can maintain, or hell, even produce boost at high CFM numbers) would require a very powerful electric motor. Think of the energy a supercharger requires to spin and produce boost. As much as 50% of the extra power a supercharger provides an engine goes back to turning the supercharger. In other words, if you install a supercharger and see an extra 100 horses at the dyno, the engine is actually producing 200 more horses, but 100 of them are spinning the turbo.I am not 100% sure about the percentage of the power that goes to spin the supercharger, and different designs have different efficiencies, but even at 25% you'd need about 135 horsepower to make 100 show up on the dyno. That means 35 horses is spinning the supercharger. The engine of course has no trouble turning a supercharger, but an electric motor certainly would. Such a motor operating at 12 volts would require hundreds, if not thousands, of amps of power, and would be very large and heavy. Because it would require thick windings to operate at low voltage and high amperage, it would get very hot very fast (think "starter motor", although your starter motor can only generate about 5 horses), so it would require some sort of cooling, which of course would draw even more energy. It would require a very high capacity alternator and charging system, plus heavy power cables.In fact, it would very likely be more beneficial/efficient to use the large motor to propel the vehicle directly, either by mounting motors in the hubs (to produce an AWD vehicle) or by attaching it to the engine's crankshaft (to "boost" horsepower by way of augmenting the engine). Both methods are actually becoming quite popular with new cars. We call 'em "Hybrids" :DBTW, on a related note: I often get emails from those electric turbo guys asking me to put a link to their website on this one. They promise to do the same on their website (provide a link to this one). Since I have a big problem with the effectiveness of their product (and also because I'm no fan of internet advertising) I tell 'em to get bent. Besides, I would hope that T-Bird/Cougar owners would be too smart to fall for their advertising lies. Hell, I wish that everyone were too smart for it...*Edit* I just checked out Darkthunder's link. While it looks as though that "supercharger" is better than the "turbonator" , it still looks pretty much useless. Maximum CFM is 450. Maximum engine displacement is 3.0 liters. Maximum boost is 5 PSI, and I'm betting tha's a peak figure that rapidly drops as engine RPM climbs and CFM requirements go up. It has a maximum running time of 15 seconds. And, the clincher: He admits that the thing draws too much current to use the vehicle's regular electrical system, so a bank of auxiliary batteries and a means of charging them is also required. Indeed, it looks to me like a starter motor attached to a compressor. And as Nate notes: For $1700 you could buy a cheap centrifugal supercharger that would actually, you know, WORK. Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #10 – May 09, 2006, 10:01:02 PM Instead of "screwing" around with worthless , how about actually doing something useful or beneficial to the performance of your car? Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #11 – May 10, 2006, 11:45:57 AM some companies are making electic "turbos" for feul cell vehicles and ultra effecient applications. They are test only, but can produce good boost on small displacement applications. they spin at rediculous rpm numbers though. Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #12 – May 10, 2006, 04:20:36 PM How do companies get away with selling this with their advertisp00gets that are flat out lies? Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #13 – May 10, 2006, 04:54:48 PM Quote from: Baneroute ur smog pump to your air inlet tube before your throttle body :rolleyes:i did that for shiznits an giggles once...... it would probably suit a lawnmower more than a car...... Quote Selected
electric turbo Reply #14 – May 26, 2006, 12:56:33 PM here ya go,,,,,,,,,rig up a roto zip (30,000 rpm) to a squirrl cage blower motor and pump that up into your intake,,, of course like said an inverter would be needed.why do i just know someones curiosity is now perked?:D Quote Selected
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