Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #30 – January 18, 2005, 08:50:44 PM It would make me very happy if my struggles can help you or anyone else for that matter. I am trying to have this thing together and running before my baby is born so my wife can have back the garage. I can see now it will be pretty tight to make that deadline but I will try my best. I mainly want to do it correctly so it will be fully functional when I am done. Choosing to do the 5 speed made it even harder but I just can't see having the power with a column shift. I also want to switch to the handbrake (I love to lock up those rear wheels) but I think I can do that after I am done with everything else, but if it will save me time I may try to do that as well while there is tons of room to work around. Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #31 – January 22, 2005, 04:46:45 PM Being that it is very nasty weather here today I am not going to pull the car outside to wash that engine bay. Instead I am working on getting the interior work done. I am pulling out the steering column, e-brake pedal, and pedal assembly to make way for the T-5 swap. Is it possible for someone to tell me the measurements on the hole to cut in the floor for the T-5 shifter? Or am I going to have to wait until I get the engine and trans.?? Thanks, Jason. Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #32 – January 24, 2005, 10:00:32 AM I think that you can just get a center console and just cut it out around that hole. I think that there is a write up on coolcats with pictures Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #33 – January 24, 2005, 11:06:36 AM Yes, the writeup on coolcats uses the properly installed center console as a guide. If I'm not mistaken, there's a printable stencil to cut with, too. Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #34 – January 24, 2005, 11:55:44 AM http://www.coolcats.net/media/shiftemp.pdfNote that the drawing is for an AOD floor shifter. You can use this for a 5-speed shifter as well; you'll just have to bend the ears on the corners. Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #35 – January 24, 2005, 01:16:45 PM Thanks. I thought there was something on it, but when I didn't see it under the 5 speed swap I figured I must have saw it on a previous post, but I couldn't find it on the old site. I did find suitable seats and console from an XR7. I don't know how I am going to work in the hand-brake yet though. I may end up forgetting that for now if it becomes too much of a problem, I have enough to do as it is. Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #36 – January 28, 2005, 12:14:32 AM I have located a 4 cylinder mustang in my local salvage yard with a transmission in it. Is this transmission acceptable for my conversion. The ones listed on Eric's site don't show the 2.3 mustang older than 87, is that the cut-off year for the t-5 in mustangs? I know it has lower gearing, but for $50 bucks can I live with it? Or is it just worthless in a 5.0 car. Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #37 – January 28, 2005, 12:21:57 AM well, it does have lower gearing, itll almost be like you have 3.55's in the rear with a stock T5 trannyhere's the dilly, you can use the transmission only, and the clutch pedal assembly, youll still need a 5.0 flywheel, bellhousing, clutch fork etc.as for the 4 banger tranny behind a 5.0, ive seen it done many times, ive seen it last, but everyone doesnt recommend it Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #38 – January 28, 2005, 01:32:24 AM Quote from: jasontbirdI have located a 4 cylinder mustang in my local salvage yard with a transmission in it. Is this transmission acceptable for my conversion. The ones listed on Eric's site don't show the 2.3 mustang older than 87, is that the cut-off year for the t-5 in mustangs? I know it has lower gearing, but for $50 bucks can I live with it? Or is it just worthless in a 5.0 car.The only 4 cyl Stangs older than '87 to have a 5 speed were the turbocharged SVOs. The torque rating for the 4 cyl trannys is around 240 ft lbs, the early(pre '89) "weak" 5.0 T5 was rated at 265 ft lbs. They do have a deep first gear, 3.97 vs 3.35(or 2.95 for the strongest T5s). So as Shawn stated, 2.73s would be like about like 3.55s. Stick a late '80s Probe pilot bearing in the back of the crank and yes you could use it... I'd locate a spare or two though... Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #39 – January 28, 2005, 01:42:18 AM I am seeing in several places that using the 4banger t-5 is not too ideal. I think I will skip that idea. I dont want to be pulling it out or scared to get on it. You also give up some overdrive as well. Does the brake booster and master cylinder from the 4 cyl. work in the t-bird? If I understood it correctly from Eric's site I need to put a stang unit in to get clearance for the clutch cables. Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #40 – January 30, 2005, 10:51:27 PM I didn't get to my engine bay yet due to py weather and I had one of those nasty colds. I tackeled my driveshaft instead. I painted it and put in new universal joints.[/IMG] Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #41 – February 15, 2005, 01:46:34 PM Can I use up to a 95 stang motor? For some reason I was under the impression I couldn't use anything past 92. Eric's write up list up to 95. I didn't know if it caused extra work or what. Just wondering as I search out for my engine. I have bid on a couple of engines on ebay that were listed locally but they went for more than what I wanted to pay. I am being patient, but another couple weekends and I won't have anything to do without the engine and transmission. Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #42 – February 15, 2005, 06:29:04 PM Well you can use up to a 95 engine but the accessory mounts are a little different on the 94-95 also they have that weird intake that curves toward the airbox which won't work for you.I would stay away from the 86 engine as it has really py flat top pistons and very restrictive e6se heads.Also stay away from the 93-95 engines as they have hyperutechnic pistons which are not as strong as the 87-92 stang engines forged ones.You don't have to limit yourself to 89&up engines you can include the 87-88 as well.They were sd but that doesn't matter as they are exactly the same as the 89-92 mass air engines,only difference being the maf sensor.The stock maf sensor actually lowered the hp of the 89-92 engines to 215. because it was a restictive 55mm,the tb is 60mm. Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #43 – February 15, 2005, 06:51:52 PM Thanks, I thought I had seen some reason to stick with the older engines. I was planning on running speed density regardless of which motor I get. Does that mean I will need to swap out the throttle body as well as the air box and inlet tube? I was thinking I would only need to swap out the air box to eliminate the MAF sensor. Didn't know about the throttle body being diff.I suppose I could just leave it up to fate and say if I get a MAF motor then set it up that way and if I get an SD motor set it up that way. I know that I won't mod this motor for about two years so I was thinking use the SD since it has a little bit more power then convert to mass air once I am ready to modify the engine. Quote Selected
Re: 5.0 transplant Reply #44 – February 15, 2005, 06:59:00 PM The tb's are all the same on th the 87-93 engines.The difference lies in the intake tubes that come from the air box.Instead of on long tube from the air box to the tb,they use 2 smaller tubes and put the maf between them.The only reason there is an hp loss is because when you put in a stock maf it is smaller than the tb ,ie:bottleneck. Quote Selected
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