Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #45 – December 08, 2004, 10:53:14 AM Yes Tbird 232ci and your engine will be banging when it totally drains all the oil outta it. We have to many Chrysler sympathisers on this board. I would buy a focus before i would buy an SRT4, for the simple fact that chrysler has had and always will have major quality issues.And try and tell me the 300 c aint a mitsubishi reskin now http://mitsubishicars.com/galant/image_gallery.htmlAnd here is the link to the 300c's image gallery just to prove my pointhttp://www.chrysler.com/300/features/exterior_photos/index.html Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #46 – December 08, 2004, 10:58:09 AM Quote from: 20th anny 5.oYes Tbird 232ci and your engine will be banging when it totally drains all the oil outta it. We have to many Chrysler sympathisers on this board. I would buy a focus before i would buy an SRT4, for the simple fact that chrysler has had and always will have major quality issues.And try and tell me the 300 c aint a mitsubishi reskin now http://mitsubishicars.com/galant/image_gallery.htmlAnd here is the link to the 300c's image gallery just to prove my pointhttp://www.chrysler.com/300/features/exterior_photos/index.htmlActually the 300 is a Mercedes reskin, uses alot of thier chassis. :ies: Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #47 – December 08, 2004, 11:12:03 AM Quote from: 20th anny 5.oYes Tbird 232ci and your engine will be banging when it totally drains all the oil outta it. We have to many Chrysler sympathisers on this board. I would buy a focus before i would buy an SRT4, for the simple fact that chrysler has had and always will have major quality issues. And try and tell me the 300 c aint a mitsubishi reskin now http://mitsubishicars.com/galant/image_gallery.html And here is the link to the 300c's image gallery just to prove my pointhttp://www.chrysler.com/300/features/exterior_photos/index.html And the Focus doesn't have quality issues? I think there are more recall issues against that car than there have been against any other single model in recent history. As Cougarman said, the 300 is no Mitsu reskin, it's a Mercedes E-class reskin. Meanwhile, the Five Hundred is a reskinned Volvo S80 and the upcoming Fusion is a reskinned Mazda6... Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #48 – December 08, 2004, 11:15:40 AM pwnedAnd I don't see any similarities between the Galant and the 300. It's a FWD, for heavens sake. Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #49 – December 08, 2004, 11:30:40 AM Quote from: Thunder ChickenAnd the Focus doesn't have quality issues? Here's a focus quality story for ya...a couple weeks ago my stepson's g/f pulls into the driveway in her focus with engine troubles. She is complaining of loss of power and pinging. I go out to have a look and the first thing I aways check is fluid levels. Oil looked good, no metal, a little brown like it needed to be changed, no smell of gas...I think, "may have overheated" so I check the coolant level...hmmm? no coolant in the overflow (and no way to check what's in the rad). I told my stepson to go into the shed and bring out a bottle of coolant and top it up. About 3 seconds after he starts to poor it in the overflow it starts to come out of the bottom of the rad. He gets down to have a look and it's coming out of the lower hose. The factory hose clamp (you know the ones you have to nip together with pliers to get off) is loose and the hose had come off. I go into the shed and get a replacement clamp while he takes off the original clamp. He passes me the the original clamp and the retainer that holds the clamp open during assembly is still on it. :shakehead there's "Quality is Job 1" for ya:mad: BTW. After we refilled the rad, the engine did start up and run fine. No problems since. Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #50 – December 08, 2004, 11:39:40 AM My mother's '01 (first year, bad idea, I know) has only about 75k and it has valvetrain rattle and the exhaust has a small leak. Oh, and in addition, as stated, it has about 15 recalls. Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #51 – December 08, 2004, 11:40:47 AM all i have to say is chrysler never bothers to fix any of the thats wrong with thier cars they would rather just end the line, and yes i will compare the 300 to a galant same basic body structure seems a bit suspicious to me, im not fond of chrysler so :flip: Chrysler into obvilion. I hope they go down in burning flames and take the once Proud jeep with them. Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #52 – December 08, 2004, 12:25:47 PM Well, your suspicions can be put to rest, because they are completely different platforms. I'm fond of the 300 more for what it means for the domestic market than anything else. I think it's pretty ugly, and this hydraulic valve actuator system they have on the Hemi scares me. But it's the return of the RWD family sedan, which can only be good. Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #53 – December 08, 2004, 12:57:27 PM Im sorry guys i have been a pretty big ass about the whole thing and would like to take this time to apologize, I am obviousily very overopionated and where the hatred of chrysler lies deep in my heart i will quit being a dick about how stanchly i hate them. Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #54 – December 08, 2004, 01:57:21 PM Quote from: 20th anny 5.oIm sorry guys i have been a pretty big ass about the whole thing and would like to take this time to apologize, I am obviousily very overopionated and where the hatred of chrysler lies deep in my heart i will quit being a dick about how stanchly i hate them.This proves you're not completely closed minded, which is all right, in my books. No worries, man. Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #55 – December 08, 2004, 02:46:08 PM Just as a side note i may be showing up to CJ but not in my cat she is going up in storage and if i get this next job will be buying an 05 focus stick of course. (need to start out with credit somewhere) Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #56 – December 08, 2004, 04:41:27 PM i was actually raised in a chrysler family, so im still partial to the mopar name, i mean hell, i do still own a turbo-k car, but i need to sell it Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #57 – December 08, 2004, 06:06:01 PM How much ? J/k my parents tryed to get me to buy one and frankly i dont really like em.box on wheels, just outt curiosity how much hp? Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #58 – December 09, 2004, 01:56:10 AM 146hp, like, 150ft/lbs of torque, but the potential of those cars are amazing, theres guys running 12's on their daily drivers Quote Selected
Re: Why, oh WHY, do I root for Ford? (long rant - Bird351 BEWARE!!!) Reply #59 – December 09, 2004, 10:32:03 AM But its aerodynamically incorrect ???? running 12's its as [] as you can get Quote Selected