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Reply #15
Quote from: thunderjet302
Someone swaped you seats at some point then. My LX seats are flat with no lumbar or leg rest. I do have dual power seats though.

Not necessarily. I know where there's an '88 LX rotting in a guy's back yard with the TC/sport seats, floor shifter, and full digital dash with woodgrain dash panels. The car is absolutely loaded. The guy is the original owner and claims that everything on the car is as it was delivered when new (including the full body kit, which I've been trying to buy from him). Because of this car I'd always thought that all 88 V8 LX's had the TC seats, but seeing that yours has the standard seats  now has me thinking this may be another of those factory freaks,  or the TC seats may have been an option. I suppose they also could have been dealer installed, but regardless, the guy says he bought the car new that way.

I have been trying to buy that car off him for three years now but he won't sell it. Shame, too - the raven TC interior is mint and the body kit would be nice to have, but every time I call him or stop in I get "Well, I don't know if I want to sell it". The poor thing is literally sitting on the frame, it's sunken in the mud that deep...
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

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Reply #16
Quote from: DMC24guy
That's one of the more stranger things about my car which I haven't to this point mentioned. I know the Auto Turbo's were only supposed to get 10lbs of boost, but when I trounce on the thing, I can get up to 15lbs easy.


It has the 5 speed turbo then(or at least the wastegate bleed fitting from one, thats the only difference in the auto and stick versions of the  IHI.)

Ckeck the timing...

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Reply #17
You're not suggesting changing the timing in order to get the boost...down...are you!?
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Reply #18
Change the timing to get more power - not boost

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Reply #19
How would I go about doing this? How do I adjust it, and what do I adjust it to for more power?
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Reply #20
Quote from: TurboCoupe50
It has the 5 speed turbo then(or at least the wastegate bleed fitting from one, thats the only difference in the auto and stick versions of the  IHI.)

Not necessarily.  My girlfriend's 88 TC is auto.  The previous owner had the turbo rebuilt and had the wastegate lines routed wrong.  The car would only produce roughly 6 psi.  After I looked at the fan shroud and corrected the mistake, it would hit 10 psi and felt like a different car.  It would also surge to 15 psi every once and again.  Surge is caused by long waste gate tubing such as the system used on 87-88 TC's.  The IHI's are the same and the only time the BCS bleeds pressure is when the premium switch is flipped on the 5-speed cars.

Also it came with the premium switch and a BCS, but obviously flipping the switch wouldn't make a difference.  The guy said the car wasn't messed around with and was totally stock.  I don't know if all TC's came with a BCS and just the 5-speeds (having the extra PCM port) would have it functional.  If I get a chance I can swap my LA3 into it and see if it makes it work.

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Reply #21
Quote from: Thunder Chicken
Not necessarily. I know where there's an '88 LX rotting in a guy's back yard with the TC/sport seats, floor shifter, and full digital dash with woodgrain dash panels. The car is absolutely loaded. The guy is the original owner and claims that everything on the car is as it was delivered when new (including the full body kit, which I've been trying to buy from him). Because of this car I'd always thought that all 88 V8 LX's had the TC seats, but seeing that yours has the standard seats  now has me thinking this may be another of those factory freaks,  or the TC seats may have


These seats have always been in the car.  My grandpa got it as a company car, but liked it so much when he left that he bought it off of them, then my dad got it, now I own it.  One of us would have known if the seats were changed out.

I have a floor shifter, digital cluster, wood grain dash and TC seats in mine as well, and Mike Pinto informed me that I have TC style door panels as well (or at least the lock switches).  But mines an 87.

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Reply #22
Quote from: thunderjet302
A stock 5.0 SO isn't going to feel that much quicker than your auto Turbo Coupe. They're probably equally fast. I've done a few mods to mine (check my sig) and the car has woken up considerably. The 5.0 Sport will have much more low end torque than your Turbo Coupe though which might make it feel faster.

This is exactly right  your going to feel fast not be faster.  Tune what you have, wake it up youll proably be happier.

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Reply #23
Quote from: Billyf17
Not necessarily.  My girlfriend's 88 TC is auto.  The previous owner had the turbo rebuilt and had the wastegate lines routed wrong.  The car would only produce roughly 6 psi.  After I looked at the fan shroud and corrected the mistake, it would hit 10 psi and felt like a different car.  It would also surge to 15 psi every once and again.  Surge is caused by long waste gate tubing such as the system used on 87-88 TC's.  The IHI's are the same and the only time the BCS bleeds pressure is when the premium switch is flipped on the 5-speed cars.

Also it came with the premium switch and a BCS, but obviously flipping the switch wouldn't make a difference.  The guy said the car wasn't messed around with and was totally stock.  I don't know if all TC's came with a BCS and just the 5-speeds (having the extra PCM port) would have it functional.  If I get a chance I can swap my LA3 into it and see if it makes it work.


The BCS is there on the automatics and likely functions... It's the restrictor in the line line to it that makes the difference(can't bleed as much). I've swapped a auto 8UA EEC into a 5 speed TC and it still made 15 lbs. I swapped the complete turbo with fittings from my automatic into a 5 speed with the LA3 EEC and it only made 9 psi.

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Reply #24
This one didn't even use the BCS, it just kinda sat there.  I haven't had time to add a power switch to it to see what kind of boost it builds.  But I know this one did nothing because it was unplugged when I found it, in fact it was bypassed.  So with it hooked up and powered on, it should make the 15 psi.  But this is only an assumption and can't be proved until the car gets fixed.  If it is the turbo, I have a 5 speed IHI in my basp00get and I can verify to see if that is the case.  I can't see why it would be any different.  The waste gates were all the same between the T3 and the IHI.  All that was different was the BCS.

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Reply #25
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Because of this car I'd always thought that all 88 V8 LX's had the TC seats, but seeing that yours has the standard seats now has me thinking this may be another of those factory freaks, or the TC seats may have been an option. I suppose they also could have been dealer installed, but regardless, the guy says he bought the car new that way.


According to the 88 dealer brochure I have only the Turbo Coupe and Sport had a full counsel and floor shifter. My car is loaded and I mean loaded. I have every option but a sunroof. I even have leather seats and they still are the flat style with the counselette. I know mine is definatly a LX (I checked the vin and it has an LX badge). Maybe like you said some LXs snuck out later with the floor shift and Turbo Coupe seats when production was winding down. My car was built in September 1987 and it was #4035 off the line so it's realativly early production.....
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #26
My 87 LX has full center console, no floor shifter, TC seats, and TC style door panels. Everything is stock on the inside. I'm the second owner. The guy i bought it off of is a preacher so wouldnt lie...lol.

20006 Ford Fusion SE

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Reply #27
Hmm I have the TC style door panles too. All LX and Tcs got those door panels. I swear that the counsel isn't a regular option in a LX. Those that have it must have been special order.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #28
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Those that have it must have been special order.


This is my second 87 t-bird with a full console. My first one was in a 87 base.

20006 Ford Fusion SE

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Reply #29
Quote from: Blck85TBirdV8
My 87 LX has full center console, no floor shifter, TC seats, and TC style door panels. Everything is stock on the inside. I'm the second owner. The guy i bought it off of is a preacher so wouldnt lie...lol.

 I hear the sales pitch now... I only drove it to church on Sunday. :D

Maybe the console was aval in '87, it is not listed as aval for the LX in the '88 sales album...