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January 08, 2006, 03:30:48 PM

yeah I am looking at putting hooker lers on my 97 cougar 4.6,then a chip and cold air induction, already have K/N airfilter, but need much more low end torque, got full posi, but hard to show off sometimes without brake torqing(cooch shiznit), like a lot of low end growl, plus my office is only a 1/2 mile from my house so everyday to and from work is like a drag race, and around here we got too many chevy jackasses and ricers beat a few so far but i wanna finish my car out so it is a silent killer if you know what I mean, looks normal on the outside (except for the 18" bling) but deadly under the hood, no N.O.S.
Any advice will help a fellow THUNDERCAT man,
oh yeah what happend to gtbird.com?? anybody know?

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Reply #1 – January 09, 2006, 02:05:53 AM

You should get yourself some JBA headers, aftermarket upper plenum, throttle body, underdrive pulleys, 4.10 gears, a shift kit/programmer and a nice converter with about 3000rpm stall speed....a converter advertised for a stang will stall higher in the heavier 'Bird than it would in a 'stang. That's just a nice start and might even get you into the low-14 sec. range on a nice cool day.

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Reply #2 – January 09, 2006, 06:32:36 AM

ditch the stock cam. It makes low torque up higher then you are used to.

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Reply #3 – January 09, 2006, 02:12:58 PM

Quote from: 97mercpimp

(except for the 18" bling)

Come on man, you cant say this and not hook us up with a pic. Got any?

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Reply #4 – January 09, 2006, 05:09:46 PM

Quote from: Haystack

ditch the stock cam. It makes low torque up higher then you are used to.

Dude, have you ever driven a 4.6 powered 'Bird? They don't make much low end torque...that's what he wants...good luck finding cams to make more low end torque without killing power everywhere else.

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Reply #5 – January 09, 2006, 06:03:31 PM

You claim its deadly under the hood ( if i interpreted this right if not OH well), What exactly do you have done, a list of mods would help us help you.

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Reply #6 – January 09, 2006, 06:38:18 PM

Quote from: Sick88Tbird

Dude, have you ever driven a 4.6 powered 'Bird? They don't make much low end torque...that's what he wants...good luck finding cams to make more low end torque without killing power everywhere else.

That is what I was saying. I have driven a 94 cougar alot, its ed near impossible to spin the wheels.

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Reply #7 – January 09, 2006, 09:54:28 PM

The older SOHC 4.6's are not known for being torque monsters (neither are the 99-04's either however they ARE an improvement) Gears would help. So would a port and polish on the heads and intake. If your budget allows maybe some forced induction that would help in the low end department (perhaps a Kenne Bell or Whipple)

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Reply #8 – January 14, 2006, 10:43:51 AM

For about $600 , around here anyway, you can get yourself a set of 3.73:1, or 4.1:1, or even 4.3:1 rearend gears installed. You say your a 1/2 mile away from work so that's when you'll like'em! The best bang for the buck I ever got was swapping my 3.55s for 4.10s in my 95 F150. I don't drive on the hiway much so it didn't negatively affect my gas mileage. Probably helped if anything in the start stop traffic. You want bottom end without sacrificing the upper HP.....GEARS!~

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Reply #9 – January 14, 2006, 04:53:15 PM

Quote from: Haystack

ditch the stock cam. It makes low torque up higher then you are used to.

Don't forget that on a 4.6, it's camS, plural, and cam kits for the 4.6L's are EXPENSIVE!

Really, the best bang for the buck thing you can do on early 4.6's is swap to 99+ (PI) heads. Just doing that will seriously give you something on the order of 60-90 hp, from what I've seen in the magazines.

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Reply #10 – January 17, 2006, 02:56:21 PM

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Really, the best bang for the buck thing you can do on early 4.6's is swap to 99+ (PI) heads. Just doing that will seriously give you something on the order of 60-90 hp, from what I've seen in the magazines.

Don't forget most of those swaps include a port and polish as well as the PI intake which I believe you must use with PI heads.

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Reply #11 – January 18, 2006, 02:12:46 AM

The PI head swap is more expensive than it's really worth...you're looking at about $1000 just for the heads, then you still need the intake and the ECM. If you're talking about heads, you'd be better off sending them to TEA to get ported. But, again, that will probably diminish low end torque slightly.

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Reply #12 – January 18, 2006, 02:22:56 AM

you should be able too get a 99+ mustang gt 4.6 engine pull for around a grand if not cheeper, id search one out and drop in a whole new motor....

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Reply #13 – January 18, 2006, 12:27:15 PM

A PI swap may be expensive...but hell I've seen '98 & earlier mustangs in magazines (and on horsepower TV) that they put a supercharger a several other things on and they couldn't even muster 300 hp out of the thing. That's just sad!

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Reply #14 – January 18, 2006, 01:32:56 PM

Quote from: Red_LX

A PI swap may be expensive...but hell I've seen '98 & earlier mustangs in magazines (and on horsepower TV) that they put a supercharger a several other things on and they couldn't even muster 300 hp out of the thing. That's just sad!

What were they doing wrong, A SC on the Grand prix we have it pulling over 300Hp with minor mods. less than 1000 in aftermarket parts. its a 3.8.

My 5.0 is pulling 350 to the wheel (Motor from a 92 GT) with no power adder at all. What kinda super charger where they using.