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Yes but the Honda you speak of will last longer than that Mustang GT or any other Domestic built product. As for inflation take a look at what a new chevy truck costs to make and how much it sells for. You are looking at a 200% profit. What do you think they are turning on the new mustnag for profit.

And by all means I don't think it costs $14,000. And probably 1k -2k of that is to pay the guys on the line to put it together. Another 2k for the engineers and all the pencil pushers.

Thats right around $10,000 for profit. Lets just say that inflation has gone up that much that your pinto of the 70's that cost 6K jumped to 10K during the 80's then to 14K in the 00's. Wheres my compensation for inflation.

Here is your Next gen GTO ULGY looks more like a 04 accord than a GTO to me. Sorry about the py pic, i dont have a scanner and what can you expect from a hundred dollar camera.

since Holden hasn't even started designing it yet. (yup, Pontiac is leaving it in their hands again)

Word has it that its going to be an american design this time.  But those ausies love there holdens more than anything else.  Holden wont change that car for a couple more years.

p.s.
The LS6 is the 454 found in Chevelles and the like. The LS2 is the new 6.0L in the Vette.

Bottom line they need to see not everyone can afforg the cars they build and quite crying when profits are down and everyone is driving a Honda or Toyota.

I dunno about that. The 4.6 is only just starting to come into its own. 300 horses N/A isn't bad for a 3-valve 281 CI engine, and the Cobra's underrated 390 horses ain't too shabby either, supercharged or not. Then there's the underrated 550 horses from the GT's 5.4. And the 450+ horses in the upcoming Shelby GT500. The modular engine family has loads of potential, and that potential is only just starting to be realized. This engine family has come a long, long way from the 190-horse Town Car engine of the early 90's and the 215 horse Mustang engine of the mid 90's.

Just think - in a few years the BASE Mustang will have a 250-horse V6. That is 25 horses more than were available to the beloved 5.0 (and a full 100 horses more than our 5.0 'Birds and Cougars), and only 10 short of the 99-04 GT. The GT now has 300 horses, almost as many as the top-of-the-line Cobra of a few years ago. And the last 390-horse Cobra had power never even heard of before in a stock Mustang. And hopefully in a few years GM and Chrysler will have comparable cars for sale.

Yes, the LS6 makes 400 horses, but the LS6 is also 6.0 liters. Yes, the LS7 makes 500 horses, but that LS7 is also 7.0 liters. GM makes horsepower with old school tech and cubic inches, Ford makes it with technology and supercharging. There is nothing wrong with either approach. The end result is that the horsepower war is far from over, the so-called glory days of muscle cars are only just beginning, and car enthusiasts, regardless of their brand loyalty, have some very compelling choices right now.

I always laugh at the whiners on both sides. Ford guys whine about GM's cubic inch advantage, GM guys whine about Ford's use of superchargers. Nobody seems to notice that both sides (and now Chrysler too) are producing the most exciting cars in 40 years.

As for that Camaro concept - love it. Anything that keeps the Mustang on its toes and the pony car segment relevant in general is a good thing. Who knows - now that the domestics are actually going to be producing interesting cars, maybe they'll get some market share back...

Actually, the LS6 is in the C5 Z06. The 454 might have been called an LS6 back in the 60's-70's, but GM is known for reusing their codes.

On the topic of inflation, it wouldnt be inflation if costs were rising and pay wasnt rising. Inflation is when costs rise, and pay does not.

hmm. I am curious what Paul is going to say about that. They could get more then 300hp out of it, they just dont want tol