Even these aren't invincible (really bad T-Bird accident with fatalies inside).

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Reply #30 – September 17, 2005, 10:12:13 AM

I'm with you dark! Super Subs here I come. That Is some wild stuff. I bet they were doing well over 60.

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Reply #31 – September 17, 2005, 10:23:50 AM

I'd believe 60 at the point of impact - after the 200 foot skid.

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Reply #32 – September 17, 2005, 11:07:44 AM

Quote from: darkthunder

. :( I think I'll be getting subframe connectors ASAP!

Subframes connect the rearward frame sections(under the rear seat) would not have helped in this instance. Apparently it hit just at the correct point to split it, or maybe this was a poorly halved/rust damaged car?? Its almost impossible for me to believe a solid car split apart.

Either way just proves the unexpected can happen in a instance...

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Reply #33 – September 17, 2005, 11:36:05 AM

Yeah it pretty much looks like it sheared off at the firewall...Dunno.

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Reply #34 – September 17, 2005, 11:39:35 AM

About 10 years ago there was an accident on the freeway around here, where a full size Dodge van crossed the median, and hit a fox Mustang hatch in the rear tire area. The Mustang split right behind the front seats, luckily both occupants survived.

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Reply #35 – September 17, 2005, 01:59:03 PM

Back in '03, a couple of friends of mine died in a Mustang, it looked a lot like that Thunderbird did...
They were going too fast, lost control and broadsided another vehicle on the road.
I too, think these and other Fox cars are weak as hell in the sides from a high speed impact....then in '04 a guy in a brand new Mach 1 'Stang
ripped it right into after hitting a tree at about 40 mph....
he walked away with no injuries at all, but he was ONLY going 40!

Don't take life for granted, and when ya get that urge to mat the go pedal, just remember that white Thunderbird... :disappoin

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Reply #36 – September 17, 2005, 03:09:13 PM

the car splitting probably is the only reason those that survived did. its so shocking to see those photos...its supprising anyone survived. sad story all together.

maybe the subframes wouldnt do much but its diffinetly got me thinking more seriously about a 6 point. reality wise though, you cant go running around scared that somethings going to hapen. if its gonna happen theres nothing you can do about it. all i can say is be safe and think twice.

i remember being younger...not that much younger btw i wouldnt have thought twice about laying a posi strip through an intersection at a light with people all around. it was so ignorant and disrespectfull. i know that now...thought i was cool then. if simply growing up and having responsibility didnt change me it was the birth of my first daughter. it changed everything. makes me worry alot about what other people around me are doing. i realy have to fight the urge to smack around someone doing the same ignorant stuff i used to...i guess its true what they say...to be old and wise you must first be young and stupid. i know i was...not sure about the wise thing though..

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Reply #37 – September 17, 2005, 04:02:19 PM

You Ever See What Happens To These Things When Picked Up In The Front By A Tow Truck.talk About Body Flex You Would Half To Pick The Door Up To Close It.i Made The Driver Put It Down And Come Back With A Flat Bed.

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Reply #38 – September 17, 2005, 05:28:53 PM

Depending on how u do subframes counts,
Most do little bars weld them in around tranny crossmember and weld in near the lower arms, My frame is welded at the back of the were rear end bolts in and has new plates that go in were arms connect and are welded to the frame. My front goes past tranny right to front the start to wrap there way up to the firewall. Its more a full frame then just connectors. It also gives much more soport and is alot better to cage later, My 83Kat was done like this and when it i crashed it i was punted off hwy and went backwards into a wall at 110KMs 55MPH around there,
I almost walked away I could have if i wanted but since i have hurt my back b4 and i took a hell of hit it was very wise to wait,

No amout of safty stuff can make u 100% safe, facts are person with no seat belt has less odds of being Ok over a person straped in. But every year there is a huge crash somewere were the person is ejected and come sout with a few scrachs and person in car with seatbelt is killed. Same can be said about other view were person that is not belted in would have lived if they had a seatbelt on.

Then u have people killed by airbags ot kids in front seat and airbag,
Best bet is to have a pack of Lifesavers get out of that 5 mile area around your home as fast as u cant because most crashs happen near home.

SirChirp

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Reply #39 – September 17, 2005, 06:06:51 PM

im going to have to thank the cop that pulled me over for doing 56 in a 35 and scared the pee out of me. now in my taurus i do the speed limit no more. and in my tbird all i do at the most is stomp on it till i get 5 over thats it. did 95 in it one time and will never do it again. scared the out of me. shiznit just stomping on it and getting up to speed scares me a lil and im happy. i would be more scared if it didnt.

it just comes down to this you dont give a 16-20 year old a car that is fast. my first 5 cars were taurus and they can get out of there way and seeing the size they are fast. but by driving that then going to my tbird. there is no way in hell i would let my kid ever have a car till they are old enough to buy it themself and put there own insurance on it.

plz note i am 20 and im still at that stupid point. and if i do somthing stupid i know it was my fault and i will take the blame

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Reply #40 – September 18, 2005, 12:37:57 AM

88SptCoupe: Im 20 also, and i used to drive the speed limit and nothing more for the longest time...then i got my turbo coupe

i do drive like an idiot, ive told stories about me almost wrapping it around a pole

as Shame302 stated, you cant be scared of death, or injury, you have to know, and accept that one day, it can and will happen.

i BMX, go to skateparks, etc, and i would be terrified of hurting myself, and guess what, i would be so focused on it that i would hurt myself, i stopped caring, and got less injuries

just relax and do what you gotta do, no need to be uptight and all, just dont be stupid

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Reply #41 – September 18, 2005, 01:49:36 AM

I would say if I had a young kid that I wanted to not kill themselves I'd give them a 2.3L Mustang and they should be fine

Except that I had one, and just about wrecked it a couple times being stupid, and a couple doing nothing wrong at all. Yeah, those things have no power, but they still have plenty to get up to 70 mph. I took a corner too fast in that car once and bounced off the guardrail, I spun it on the highway in the pouring rain (bald tires), spun it once in winter when I hit some ice (going faster than I shoulda been), near lost it in some slushy snow a couple times, almost rearended several people (those awesome fox brakes!)... Makes you wonder what can really be considered safe!

Now I'm 24 and I've had my Thunderbird for almost 2 years. I try not to be too crazy with this car because I really treasure it (first car I was able to buy with my own money) but even so I managed to booger up the driver's side of it because I wasn't paying attention last summer. I don't get too stupid in it most of the time, because I'm scared to death of wrecking it or blowing it up.

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Reply #42 – September 18, 2005, 09:41:19 AM

I think it all comes down to responsibility.
I got my car when I was 16 and never did anything stupid in it. Well maybe one thing. I was all by myself (nobody in the car, no cars on the road) and was making a left. I floored it and had it sideways. That scared me a bit so I never did it again.
I've had that car now for 4 years (I'm 20 now) and the only minor incident I had was because somebody almost hit me and I swerved causing no damage but a busted rim.
I had some friends in High School that had some really fast cars. They were responsible and never messed one up.

It's the ones who are not responsible who you have to watch out for. Like the kid with the old Civic hatchback who rolled, killing 2 people, or the girl in a V-6 Camaro who went flying up the shoulder of the road, lost control and flipped it up onto a hill about 100 feet from the road(This i did see). In High School we had several moments of silence for those irresponsible people who did these kinds of things.

It doesn't matter how old you are. If your irresponsible, this kind of stuff can happen. It also doesn't matter if your driving a 4-banger Tempo or a 5.0 Mustang. Give a responsible 16 year old the fastest car in the world and chances are, they will not wreck it. Unless they really don't know how to drive ;)

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Reply #43 – September 18, 2005, 12:10:18 PM

if you have responsibility fine like i said im 20 and i was in one minor incident were i rear ended a lady on ice and it broke my bumber and didnt really do much to her car she didnt even call the cops.

the fact is you can kill yourself in anything when you doing stupid things. but im going off the believe of what red_lx said that he bought it himself and he really treasures it. im the same way my dad bought my frist car and helped me with my second my first car was a 86 3.8 liter tbird for 350 bucks with a blown engine we put a new one in it and sold the car for 600 made i think 150 off the car. that 600 went towards my first car that i paid 1300 for and i been paying for them from then on. i care about my cars true i do stupid here and there but i just think back if my car was a lil bit faster what could have happened even worse.

Tbird232ci:
there is no need to be scared to die like you said when its your time its your time. but i dont see the point in making my time shorter over somthing that people in a forum will just talk about... when i die i hope its from somthing other then i lost control of my car, or a moron on the other side of the road lost control of there car. now your not scared of dieing, could you live with yourself if you killed somone from being stupid... you always must remember that your not the only one on the road, and theres other things out there then light poles and trees for you to hit. this is one of the facts that keeps me from doing alot of the stupid shiznit i think about

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Reply #44 – September 18, 2005, 01:11:59 PM

U want to make a Kid respect his car make Him PAY FOR IT.
When its given free and daddy will fix the car and mommy will give gas money who cares its all good.

When they work to build it or pay for it then its alot harder when they get tickets and damage the car.

Then again some kids dont give a shiznit