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Rocker adjustment....

Reply #105 –
Quote from: thunderjet302;440207
You needs da codes! ;)

Seriously without codes it's hard to guess exactly what is going on. I would stop swapping on parts till you get a chance to read the codes.


then its 95% chance of being  a  mechanical problem.

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Reply #106 –
Going to do a KOER test soon....
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #107 –
I'm taking the Bird to Oriellys to do a balance test. There machine is probably way more accurate than mine.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #108 –
I ran it at Oriellys....code 60, 80, and 90. Not sure if the test was a good one. I'll do my own on my py little machine later.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #109 –
Vinnie,

I'll look when I get home but I don't think those are even real codes.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #110 –
I don't either. Not in my code book. I'm going to have it re tested when Lance, their manager gets back. It was hid day off. The guys at Oreillys had NO clue that the Thunderbird was even a Ford. Really? Douche bags.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #111 –
Quote from: vinnietbird;440391
I don't either. Not in my code book. I'm going to have it re tested when Lance, their manager gets back. It was hid day off. The guys at Oreillys had NO clue that the Thunderbird was even a Ford. Really? Douche bags.

I don't have any emblems on my car right now, but I've been surprised by how many people recognize the car as a tbird. Even my tails are currently missing their emblems. All is not lost with the human species!
1988 Thunderbird Sport

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Reply #112 –
60 means cylinder 6 failed the balance test, 80 means cylinder 8 failed, and 90 means all cylinders passed.

You can run the balance test by flooring the gas pedal at any point after codes have been ran, within two minutes. Once the balance test has finished, you can run it again up to three times. As long as you get a pass the first two times, your balance is within specs.

The tps voltage doesn't matter. My cougar reads 1.25's at idle and does not surge one bit.

*edit*

As long as tps reads between .59 and 1.29volts, and reaches 3.5's over base to reach wot.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #113 –
If you want ill make a video of the balance test on my cougar with a test light and a paperclip, and upload it to YouTube.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #114 –
Not yet haystack. I'm going to run a test with my little tester. It did good a couple of years ago when I did that test. It'll work fine, if the guy at Oriellys can't do it. If so, I can just watch.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #115 –
Good luck, and let us know.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #116 –
Will do. I hate to be left hanging when people are looking for answers. Thanks a lot.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #117 –
Quote from: vinnietbird;440379
I ran it at Oriellys....code 60, 80, and 90. Not sure if the test was a good one. I'll do my own on my py little machine later.

That would be cylinders 6&8 failed the cylinder balance test and they all passed. That's only possible if the test was run three times.

Vinnie if you have a code reader the KOER and cylinder balance test is easy to do. Just warm the car up and shut it off. Then plug the code reader in. Turn the car on and then press the test button on the code reader. After it spits out the last code do a brief wide open throttle. The computer will then run a cylinder balance test. After it has run the test you'll get a code (90 is pass, any other number is the cylinder that failed ie 70 is cylinder 7 failing). You can run the test up to 3 times in a row to narrow down a cylinder that isn't contributing fully.

Don't be afraid to run the KOER test and cylinder balance on your own. It's easy and you really can't screw up the car :).
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #118 –
As long as your tester can pull codes (or you use a paperclip), you can run the cylinder balance test and get the codes. After all, all the tests are performed by the EEC - the code reader only starts the test and counts the flashes slowly sent by the EEC. The same thing that can be done with a paperclip and check-engine light.

No obd1 tester is better or worse than another.

Good luck - hope you don't find weak cylinders! That can be a pain to diagnose. You may want to re-run the set of tests a couple times to make sure you get consistent codes. If not consistent, the issue can be anything from a rotor, to a vacuum leak. http://www.corral.net/tech/maintenance/eecivtest-balance.html
1988 Thunderbird Sport

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Reply #119 –
I've run one before. No worries. I just figured since I was out, and they had the device to check it.....let them. I'll do it again myself and see if I come up with something different.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..