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here> http://www.mustangsandmore.com/ubb/DanJonesC4AODswap.html


The C4 to AOD Transmission Swap
                                    or
                    How I Spent My 1994 Christmas Vacation
                              by Dan Jones

As promised, I performed the C4 to AOD transmission swap in my parent's 1971
Mustang convertible.  The reason for the transmission swap was to gain the
benefits of the AOD's 0.675:1 overdrive gear (lower cruise RPM, increased
MPG, potentially better acceleration).  The car in question is powered by a mild
302 (600 CFM Holley, dual plane intake, mild cam, dual exhausts) and, before
the swap, had a perfectly good C4 transmission.  While this is essentially a
bolt in job, there are lots of little details that you should be aware of to
make things go smoothly.  These details, in no particular order, include:

    Procuring the Transmission
    Extension Housing
    Converter Compatibility
    Gear Ratios
    Working with Aluminum
    Transmission Jack and Jackstands
    Transmission Tunnel Clearance
    Exhaust System Clearance
    Transmission Crossmember and Insulator
    Flexplate Diameter and Balance
    Block Plate
    Nuts and Bolts
    Starter
    Driveshaft and Yoke
    Mechanical Interlocks
    Shifter Operation
    Speedometer Gear
    Electrical Connections
    Throttle Valve Operation
    Hydraulic Fittings
    Dipstick Tube
    Drain Plugs
    Transmission Fluid
    Shift Kits and Transmission Coolers

To give you an idea of what's involved in a swap like this, I've covered my
experience with each of these details in the paragraphs below.  I've also
listed some comparative weights, dimensions, and gear ratios at the end of
this posting.

Procuring the Transmission
--------------------------
If you're pulling the AOD from a car, getting all of the related stuff
(bolts, electrical connector, dipstick tube, converter, yoke, block plate,
linkages, levers, shifter, hydraulic fittings, etc.), will make life a lot
easier.  However, we used a transmission purchased from a friend of my Dad's
who rebuilds transmissions.  The price was right ($150 rebuilt), but we
had to come up with all the bits and pieces.  Because of the Christmas
holiday, getting all the right pieces was harder than usual, but we managed.

Extension Housing
-----------------
When purchasing your transmission, be aware that there are two tailshaft
lengths used on AOD's.  The short model is the one that is closest to the C4
in overall length.  I forgot to measure it but the SVO catalog says it's
10.1" long.  The catalog also indicates the short extension housing AOD was used
in all passenger cars except rear wheel drive Lincoln Marks and Continentals
(not sure about the Town Cars), 2WD F-150 trucks built after 11/81, and 83-85
E-150 vans.  Also, don't confuse the AOD with the AOD-E, which uses electronic
control.  There are also extension housing variations among C4's, with a
short tailshaft model (6 5/8") used on some pickups and vans.  Our C4 was the
standard tailshaft model (13 1/8") that was used in most applications.

Converter Compatibility
-----------------------
The AOD transmission and torque converter are a matched pair.  The AOD uses
a hollow two piece input shaft (one shaft inside the other) for lock-up
purposes and requires a specific torque converter.  This arrangement is used to
bypass the converter torque multiplication in higher gears (60% in third and 100%
in overdrive) for better fuel economy.  This is an attractive feature when
using a high stall speed converter, since locking up the converter eliminates the
excessive slippage (and the attendant heat generation, RPM rise, and
increased fuel consumption) associated with such converters.  On the down-side, the
input shaft is weaker than a similarly sized solid one piece design and you
lose the torque multiplication effect.

Gear Ratios
-----------
The first three gears of the AOD and C4 are of similar ratio.  We were
looking for longer legs and increased fuel economy so we left our rear end gears
alone. If better acceleration is the goal, a ring and pinion swap may be in order.
The beauty of this swap is that the AOD's 0.67:1 overdrive ratio can make a
3.73:1 ring and pinion act like a cruising 2.50:1 ratio.  Come to think of
it, we've got some extra 3.50:1 gears so maybe I can talk Dad into swapping
them in.

Working with Aluminum
---------------------
Like the C6 and C4, the AOD has an aluminum case so use a never-seize
compound on the aluminum threads (e.g. bolting the insulator to the case).
Also, when working with small aluminum threads (e.g. dropping the pan), I
prefer a beam-type torque wrench so I can tell when I'm approaching the
desired torque value.  I don't trust the click-type wrenches on the little
stuff.

Transmission Jack and Jackstands
--------------------------------
Despite its aluminum case, the AOD is no lightweight.  I measured 150 lbs
(without fluid or converter - as measured on Mom's bathroom scale) for the
tranny and 34 lbs for the converter, so a transmission jack is recommended.
Get the car up in the air as high as possible to give yourself some room to
maneuver.  We used a pair of stacked railroad ties underneath each front
tire and a pair of tall jackstands under the rear axle housing.

Transmission Tunnel Clearance
-----------------------------
The AOD is beefier around the middle than the C4, so it uses up more space
in the transmission tunnel.  Our '71 Mustang was designed to swallow a C6
so there was no problem.  It might be tight on cars with narrow tunnels
(like 65-66 Mustangs), but I'm told they will fit with no problem.

Exhaust System Clearance
------------------------
No problem here on our particular car (dual exhaust without a crossover).
We could have installed the AOD without ever touching the exhaust, but we
decided to unbolt the pipes from the exhaust manifolds for extra working
room.  This will vary from car to car so be prepared for potential exhaust
work.  Since I had the pipes unbolted from the manifolds, I took the
opportunity to put in new exhaust donuts. 

Transmission Crossmember and Insulator
--------------------------------------
The only bit of true fabricating that was required for this swap was the
transmission mount crossmember.  While the AOD and C4 overall lengths are
within a half inch of each other, the mounting pad for the insulator on the
AOD is 2 inches farther aft, so the crossmember mounting point needs to be
moved an equal amount.  Whether you need to buy or fabricate a custom cross
member depends on the car you're swapping the transmission into.  On some
full-sized cars, it's supposed to be as easy as switching to a second set of
aft mounting holes.  Since I planned to do the swap over Christmas break, in
another state, and was spending someone else's money, I decided to purchase
a custom crossmember, rather than fabricate one.  I purchased it from a shop
that's now out of business but there are other vendors who carry the
crossmember.  Also, a friend who swapped an AOD into his '69 Mach 1 found
an FMX crossmember can be adapted to fit with only minor modification. 

Flexplate Diameter and Balance
------------------------------
One of the more important parts of the swap is to choose the proper
flexplate for your application.  The integral bellhousing AOD requires a flexplate
with 164 teeth (approximately 14 1/4" diameter with an 11 7/16" torque converter
bolt pattern) for proper starter placement and converter compatibility.  The
C4, however, uses a detachable bellhousing that is matched to one of three
different flexplate sizes (148, 157, and 164 teeth).  The 148 teeth
flexplates are comparatively rare, having been used in cars like the V8 Mustang II.
The 157 teeth flexplates were generally used in 289/302 small and mid-sized
cars, while the 164 teeth flexplates were used in 289/302 full-size cars and
351W/351C applications.  The C4 164 teeth flexplates and the AOD 164 teeth
flexplates will physically interchange, but there are two balance weights
(pre-'81 302's use a 28.2 oz-in balance weight, '81-up 5.0 HO's are 50
oz-in), to be concerned with.  I haven't had a chance to verify but I think all
351W's and 351C's used 28.2 oz-in balance factors.  Also, the catalog I looked at
suggested that 1981 and up non-HO 302's are still 28.2 oz-in (at least to
1990).  Anyone know for sure?  In my case, the flexplate in the 1971 Mustang
came with 157 teeth and a 28.2 oz-in balance factor, so it required
replacing. Since they both have 164 teeth and 28.2 oz-in balance factors, I was under
the impression that flexplates from either a 351W w/AOD or early 289/302 w/C4
from a full-size car would work.  Looking through the books at the parts store
showed that these were not common part numbers, and listed the 351W part as
working with an AOT, not AOD, transmission.  Not knowing if the AOT
indicated a subtle variation that I was unaware of, I decided to order the early
289/302/C4/full-size part (OEM D1AZ-6375-A, Saginaw XF15).  This turned out
to be a mistake.  When we put the converter and transmission up to the engine
for a fit check, the modeling clay we had put in the crank pilot showed the
converter snout was barely making contact.  Apparently there is a difference
in flexplate depth.  It all would have bolted together and the starter may
have even managed to reach the flexplate teeth, but there would have been no
support for the converter and the starter would have eventually chewed up
the flexplate.  Procuring a 351W/AOD flexplate over the holidays turned out to
be an ordeal (dealers wanted 14 days), but it was required for proper converter
snout to crank pilot placement, while retaining the proper diameter and
balance.  We finally found a transmission supply house that had the right
piece.  We put the 351W/AOD next to the early 289/302/C4/164 teeth part and
there was a difference in height.  Since then I have checked some
aftermarket catalogs and they show the same part number for both applications, so buyer
beware. The part we finally obtained was from Sealed Power and corresponded
to OEM E0AZ-6375-A (164 teeth flexplate, 28.2 oz-in balance factor, 351W
with AOD applications).  If you're swapping an AOD onto an '81 or later 5.0,
you'll need the AOD flexplate (164 teeth, 50.0 oz-in balance factor, for 5.0
with AOD applications).  I think the OEM part number for the late 5.0/AOD
is E2AZ-6375-A, but I didn't verify this.  In a pinch, you could swap (weld)
balance weights between flexplates to get the proper balance factor.  If you
choose to do this, remember that the balance factor is a moment of inertia
(distance time mass) so keep the product of the distance from the weight to
the center of the flexplate and the balance weight (plus any additional weld
weight) equal to a constant (either 28.2 or 50.0 oz-in).

Block Plate
-----------
A block plate (the thin stamped sheet metal plate that fits between the
engine block and transmission housing) which matches the large AOD
bellhousing is also required.  This plate provides the correct starter
location and engagement depth for the torque converter snout in the crank
pilot (assuming you have the right flexplate).  We used one from an early
289 full-size application (C4 with the large bellhousing).

Nuts and Bolts
--------------
The bosses on the AOD bellhousing are thicker than those of the C4, so
longer bolts are required.  We didn't have enough of the proper length (2 1/8 to
2 1/4" long bolts), so we cut down a few longer bolts to get the desired
number of threads. Use a stiff piece of wire as a gauge to make sure they
don't bottom out. You can re-use the C4 torque converter nuts on the AOD
converter but it's a good idea to use new ones since these tend to round
off. Also be aware that the AOD is a mixed standard transmission, despite what
the METRIC embossed into the pan may imply.  Some bolts are metric, others are
not. Generally, the tranny internals are metric, but the places where the tranny
connects to the car (insulator, hydraulic fittings, speedo-drive, etc.) are
not. 

Starter
-------
The original starter was retained and aligned properly.

Driveshaft and Yoke
-------------------
When we first put the yoke into the tranny, it appeared we would need to
shorten the driveshaft by an inch or so.  This was unexpected since the AOD
is only a 1/2 inch longer than the C4.  Upon closer investigation, it became
apparent the yoke was the problem.  We had to trim the C4 yoke to get it to
fit properly.  The AOD yokes must be a bit shorter, so pick one up if you
can.

Mechanical Interlocks
---------------------
The '71 Mustang has a mechanical interlock which locks the shifter into park
whenever the ignition key is in the lock position.  I'm not sure what year
this first appeared on Fords, but I know my '66 doesn't have it.  You could
bypass the interlock but we kept it functional.  This required removing the
TV/shifter shaft assembly from the AOD (involves dropping the pan and
filter). Using the original C4 lever as a guide, we cut a spare lever and welded it
on the shaft.  This caused a problem since we were unable to remove the small
circular grommet that seals the end of the concentric cylinders of the
TV/shifter shaft assembly without damaging it.  The C4 has a rubber O-ring
in this area but the AOD uses a special formed piece which, like the
flexplate, wasn't easy to find over the holidays ("Sure we've got one but
you'll have to buy the $119 rebuild kit to get it").

Shifter Operation
-----------------
We retained the C4 floor mounted shifter in the Mustang.  Eyeballing the AOD
and C4 shift levers, it looked like the hole in the AOD shift lever would
need to be moved a bit so we welded up hole and drilled a new one.  Once
everything was assembled, we adjusted the linkage to get proper engagement of the gears
and interlocks, but the pointer was off.  It turns out the hole was probably
in the right spot to begin with.  I believe there is a quite a bit of
variation in Ford shift levers (especially between floor and column mounted
shifters, but also between body styles), so this will need to be checked on
a case-by-case basis.

Speedometer Gear
----------------
The speedometer driven gear assembly from the '71, including bolt and
retaining clip, slipped right into the AOD.  I didn't get a chance to verify
the ratios, but the speedometer operated normally.  There may be some
variation (seven and eight teeth gears?) with the AOD drive gear (the gear
inside the tailshaft housing), so you may have to change driven gears for
proper calibration.

Electrical Connections
----------------------
The AOD uses a four pin electrical connector for the reverse/backup lamps
and neutral sensing switch.  We didn't get one with our tranny, so we soldered
some wires on and used a liquid rubber compound to insulate.  If you end up
soldering, be careful not to melt the plastic housing that holds the pins in
place.

Throttle Valve Operation
------------------------
The AOD does not use engine vacuum and a modulator valve to sense load. 
Instead, a throttle valve is used which moves proportional to throttle pedal
travel.  Unlike a kick-down rod, the TV linkage has to operate throughout
the full travel.  This is one of the most important parts of the swap to get
right.  Failure to do so will cause poor shift quality and can ruin the
transmission.  When adjusting the linkage, it is safer to err on the side of
hard shifts.  There are a several ways of implementing the TV linkage and
the linkages can be pirated from cars or trucks that came with AOD's and carbs
or throttle body injection.  A rod arrangement was used on AOD cars equipped
with carbs and TBI while a cable was used on SEFI cars.  We were planning on
getting the linkage off a variable venturi (VV) carb from a local junkyard
that had a stack of them, but they had recently tossed them all out.  We
ended up just adapting the kick down rod to serve as the TV linkage.  The
trick is to ensure the proper range of travel of the transmission TV lever
for the entire carburetor throttle range.  We used another AOD equipped car
to look at to get the proper lever orientation and ratios.  After we were
finished with the swap, I noticed a friend's 1981 AOD equipped pickup truck
has a rod linkage with an adjustable lever at the transmission and a
threaded arrangement at carb that looks like it might work nicely as a swap linkage.
Remember, you'll need a way to adjust the linkage to vary shift feel. 
Alternatively, you can purchase an aftermarket TV cable kits (available from
Windsor-Fox (http://www.windsor-fox.com), Total Performance, and others). 
For more information on alternatives, find a copy of the May 1990 issue of
Super Ford magazine. The article "A-OK AOD" contains a sidebar on adapting
the AOD to non-stock applications.  Ignore the part about your stock
flexplate and block plate working just fine and pay close attention to the linkage
descriptions.

Hydraulic Fittings
------------------
The hydraulic fittings on our AOD were larger than those of the previous C4.
After the existing lines were trimmed to their proper length, two adapter
fittings (1/4" (ID) pipe, 5/16" (OD) tubing) were used to mate the fittings
on the transmission lines to the AOD case.  I believe the lines on our car
were not original since they looked like new and had quite a bit of excess
length.  They were also harder than any factory line I've dealt with.  Even
though we used the proper tubing benders and double flair tools, the lines
were very hard to work with.

Dipstick Tube
-------------
With a minor bending of the attachment bracket, the AOD dipstick tube went
in easily.  The AOD tube proved to be shorter than the C4 tube and ended up
in close proximity to the export brace, so a long neck funnel was required to
fill the transmission.  Of course, this will vary from car to car. 
 
Drain Plugs
-----------
One thing I forgot to do was to install a drain plug kit when I had the pan
off.  B&M makes an inexpensive kit that, along with our stock converter's
drain plug, would make it very easy to do complete fluid changes.

Transmission Fluid
------------------
AOD's take a lot of Dexron-II transmission fluid (the C4 used type F).  The
Chilton's we checked for capacities quoted 24 pints (12 quarts) for a
totally dry transmission like ours. 

Shift Kits and Transmission Coolers
-----------------------------------
This particular car is not subjected to much abuse so we didn't install a
shift kit or auxiliary transmission cooler.  To begin with, we'll simply
adjust the TV linkage to give firmer shifts and see how it works out.
For performance applications, a friend uses the Karl Baumann shift kit and
a Thunderbird C-servo upgrade and really likes the combo.  Because we might
be putting an AOD behind my brother's 351W and a friend's 351C-2V, I did
some research on AOD durability and performance modifications.  There are several
things that should be done to an AOD, if you want it to live behind a high
performance engine.  It may be several weeks before I can get to it, but
I'll try to post a summary of my findings.  Also, AOD-E's have the durability
upgrades from the factory and can be swapped using one of Baumann's
controllers. Check Baumann's web site at http://www.baumannengineering.com/.
This sight also has a good overview of the AOD and other Ford automatic
transmissions.

Unfortunately, I haven't had a chance to drive the car yet, since I had to
get back to St. Louis.  I left the car up on jackstands, with the wheels
spinning in all gears.  I'll get some time behind the wheel the next time I'm in
Ohio.  While there are lots of little details (and a couple major ones), this is
definitely a do-able swap, especially if you get all the related parts from
the same car.  I've included all the variations that I am aware of, but
remember YMMV.  As a reference, I've included some comparative C4 and AOD
dimensions and weights, plus a bunch of gear ratios. 

Later,
Dan Jones

C4 and AOD Dimensions
---------------------

Overall Length (bellhousing to tailshaft housing end, flat-to-flat):
 AOD - 30 3/4"
 C4 - 30 1/4"

Notes:
 "Engine Swapping Tips and Techniques" lists C4 length as 27 3/4" (C6 length
 28 1/2" or 28 3/4").  I may have measured to the end of the output shaft,
 not to the end of the tailshaft housing.

Distance from Bellhousing to Insulator Mount (flat to mounting hole centerline):
 AOD - 21 3/4"
 C4 - 19 3/4"

Torque Converter Stud Spacing (centerline-to-centerline)
 AOD/C4/164 teeth flexplate - 8 1/4" between closest studs, 11 7/16" between
 farthest studs (stud pattern diameter)
 C4/157 teeth flexplate - 7 3/4" between closest studs, 10 5/8" between
 farthest studs (stud pattern diameter)

Transmission Lengths from "The E4OD", Ford High Performance, April 1995

Trans      Bellhousing            Overall Length
            Face to Trans          From Bellhousing
            Mount Length          To Tailshaft End

C4          20 1/4"                  30 1/2"
C6          22 1/2"                33 1/2"
AOD        22 1/4"                30 3/4"
E4OD      29 3/8"                37 1/2"

Torque Converter Snout Diameter (from early SVO catalog)
 289, 302, 351W/C/M, 400, 429/460 - 1.375"
 FE series and early '68 Lincoln 460's - 1.848"

Flexplate Diameters
 164 teeth - 14 3/16" (13" converter)
 157 teeth - 13 1/4" (11" converter)
 148 teeth - ?

C4 Variations
-------------

 Large bellhousing - smooth flair case, twin bolt circles (case to housing,
 outer secures bellhousing to trans case, inner secures oil pump to case),
 3 locating tabs, 14 3/16" flexplate, 13" converter, no dipstick hole in
 main case (dipstick goes into right front corner of pan), used in small-block
 powered large cars and light trucks.

 Small bellhousing - step case, single seven bolt circle (case to housing),
 13 1/4" flex plate, 11" torque converter, dipstick hole in case (seals with
 an O-ring), five bolt ('64 1/2 and early '65 Mustangs, etc.) and six bolt
 versions, used in small and medium small-block powered cars.

 Trans-Dapt supposedly makes adapters for six bolt blocks to five bolt
 transmissions (need to check on details).

 Top bellhousing bolt holes are 5 1/8" apart.

 "C" intermediate servo (289 hipo applications) is largest but rare.
 "H" servo is next largest, used on 302 4V engines from 1968.
 "A" servo is typical stock unit.

 Pinto governor allows highest rpm shifts, p/n D7ZZ-7C063-C.

 C5 pan interchanges with C4 and is deeper.

 There was a revision in mid '70's to nine mounting bolts for the valve body,
 previously used 8 bolts.

 Main cases and bellhousings for large and small versions are not
 interchangeable.  5 and 6 bolt small bellhousings are interchangeable between
 each other (on the case side).

 Entire 6 bolt (small or large bellhousings) transmissions, except for
 dipstick locations, are interchangeable in many cars (some smaller cars
 require the small bellhousing variant).

 C5 bellhousing looks similar, but has a completely round hole in the front
 pump area and is not interchangeable with C4 bellhousing.

 Standard Tailshaft - 13 1/8" long, most applications.
 Short Tailshaft - 6 5/8" long, some pickups and vans.

 Input Shaft Spline Count (8 cylinder and some 6 cylinder applications)
  '70 and later - 26 splines
  pre-'70 - 24 splines

 Note: Some 1970 input shafts have 26 splines on both ends ('71 and later have
 24 splines on one end and 26 on the other), making them the most desirable
 for drag racing applications.
 
 Need to add C4 valve body variations (green-dot, cruise-o-matic, etc.) and
 AOD shift sequence

 Four and six cylinder versions are light duty (fewer clutch plates).
 
 Some C4's (late '60s, early 70's Mavericks? need to check details) had
 full-manual valve bodies.

Transmission Weights
--------------------

 AOD (without converter or fluid) - 150 lbs
 AOD stock torque converter - 34 lbs
 C4 (without converter or fluid) - 110 lbs
 C4 torque converter - ? lbs
 C6 (without converter or fluid) - 140 lbs
 C6 torque converter - 30 lbs small block, 31 lbs big block
 FMX (without torque converter, unknown fluid level) - 160 lbs
 FMX torque converter - 32 lbs
 Ford-o-Matic (pre-FMX), cast iron case - 228 lbs

Notes:

 - AOD and C4 weights are as measured by me using a standard bathroom scale.
 - FMX and C6 torque converter weights provided by Steve Grossen (also used
  bathroom scale).
 - Ford-o-Matic weight is an assembly line weight provided by my Dad.
 - C6 weight is from "Engine Swapping Tips and Techniques" which also lists
  the C4 at 109 lbs.

Ford Transmission Ratios Comparison
-----------------------------------

          Stock      Stock      WR    Stock      WR    E4OD
            C4          C6          C6      AOD      AOD   

1st      2.46      2.46        2.72  2.40      2.84      2.72
2nd    1.46      1.46        1.54  1.47      1.55      1.53
3rd    1.00      1.00          1.00  1.00      1.00      1.00
4th      ----        ----            ----  0.67      0.70      0.71
 
 
              1984          85-86        1983  1984  85-89  90/SR      WC    TR        TR
            SVO T5      SVO T5        T5      T5      T5      T5          T5    3550    3750S

1st          4.30        3.50          2.95    2.95    3.35    3.35      2.95    3.27      3.18
2nd          2.37        2.14        1.94    1.94    1.93    1.99      1.94    1.99    2.06
3rd            1.50        1.36        1.34    1.34    1.29    1.33      1.34    1.34    1.39
4th          1.00          1.00        1.00    1.00      1.00    1.00      1.00    1.00    1.00
5th          0.76          0.78        0.73    0.63      0.68    0.68      0.63      0.68    0.65


        WR    CR    SROD    SROD      BW        BW        RG        RG        RG        BW
        TL    TL      cast      alum      T10L      T10M      4+1      ROD      ROD      T56

1st    2.78  2.32    3.29      3.07      2.36      2.36      3.27      3.27      3.01    2.97
2nd  1.93  1.69    1.84      1.72      1.76      1.62      2.13      2.13      1.88    1.94
3rd    1.36  1.29  1.00      1.00      1.41      1.20        1.57      1.57      1.46    1.35
4th    1.00  1.00    0.81      0.70      1.00      1.00      1.23      1.23      1.19    1.00
5th    ----    ----    ----      ----        ----        ----        1.00      1.00      1.00    0.82
6th    ----    ----    ----      ----      ----        ----        ----        0.76        0.62  0.62

Notes:
 - C4 ratios are from the 1966 Mustang Illustrated Facts Book which also shows
  a 1.47 2nd gear ratio for certain transmissions.
 - AOD overdrive ratio is sometimes listed as 0.675:1.
 - WR C6 indicates a C6 with the wide ratio gear set from SVO Motorsports.
 - WR AOD indicates an AOD with the wide ratio gear set from SVO Motorsports.
 - E4OD is Ford's heavy duty automatic overdrive transmission.
 - 1984 SVO T5 was combined with a 3.45:1 final drive ratio
 - 1985-1986 SVO T5 was combined with a 3.73:1 final drive ratio
 - Some 1985 T5's used 1984 gear ratios (carry over production).
 - Certain 1989 T5's used 1990/SR gear ratios.
 - SR T5 indicates Ford service replacement transmission for '85-up 3.35 box.
 - WC T5 indicates SVO Motorsports World Class T5 (M-7003-CA, E4ZM-7003-A).
 - All T5 ratios from Muscle Mustangs and Fast Ford, June 1991, "Mission:
  Transmission".
 - When comparing ratios from automatic and manual transmissions, the torque
  multiplication of the torque converter must also be considered.
 - The AOD provides 60% lock-up in third gear and 100% lock-up in fourth gear
  (eliminates torque multiplication).
 - SROD indicates single rail overdrive.
 - T10 and SROD ratios from "Engine Swapping Tips and Techniques".
 - SROD aluminum case gear ratios are for a 79,82,83 Mustang V8 applications.
 - SROD cast iron case gear ratios are for 77-78 V8 Granada applications.
 - WR TL indicates wide ratio top loader.
 - CR TL indicates close ratio top loader.
 - BW T10 indicates Borg Warner T10 used in some Fords.
 - TR 3550 indicates the 5 speed overdrive Tremec transmission.  The TR-3750S
  is a proposed close ratio version which was never produced.  The TR-4250
  version was essentially a Reider re-worked TR-3550 and has the same ratios
  as the TR-3550.
 - Tremec information taken from the September 1992 Super Ford article "Top
  Loader Plus One".
 - RG 4+1 indicates the Richmond Gear non-overdrive 5 speed transmission
  (formerly produced by Doug Nash).
 - RG ROD indicates the Richmond Gear overdrive 6 speed transmission.
 - Some RG transmissions are available with alternative (3.27/2.14, 4.06/2.22
  4.41/2.22) first and second gear ratios.
 - Richmond Gear information taken from JBA and Summit Racing catalogs.
 - T56 ratios are for the Ford aftermarket version.  The GM and Chrysler
  versions have different ratios.
 - All gear ratios are for Ford versions of the particular transmissions.
 - Concerning the SVO 4 cylinder transmission ratios, Dan Malek notes:
  I have yet to find a '85 or '86 SVO with those gear ratios.  I know,
  those numbers get published everywhere, but I have measured up at
  least half a dozen original '86 SVO transmissions.  I have always
  found the standard 4-cylinder ratios, something like 4.05, 2.32,
  1.55, 1, 0.81.  Those '84 SVO numbers don't look quite correct either.

Balance Factor Information
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1981-and-up 5.0 HO - 50.0 oz-in
1981-and-up 302 (non-5.0 HO) - 28.2 oz-in
Pre-1981 289/302 - 28.2 oz-in
351W and 351C-400 - 28.2 oz-in

interesting old transmission article i found just now abotu AOD swap in

Reply #1
I remember reading this article what seems like 20 years ago(Looking at the title probably was 19)...

I may stick one in the Comet, depends on how well I get along with the C4/3.00 gear combo, thinking eventually it'll have something like 3:91s and high stall lockup AOD...

interesting old transmission article i found just now abotu AOD swap in

Reply #2
it is 20 year old , up in the title..
i was curious if the accuracy is spot on or if anyone has disagreements.

put it in my diy link to grab later if needed