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Number matching head

where on the cylinder can I find if a cylinder head is number matching with the car? What numbers do I compare those numbers to on the VIN number?
1987 turbo coupe 5speed: Boport stage 3 head/2.5 cam , Precision stage 3 50trim .63 turbo, Tial 38mm wastegate, Jangus gutted/ported intake manifolds, 60mm tb, Jangus open dumptube, Jangus 3" elbow, Perrin boost controller,Esslinger adjustable cam pulley, Esslinger small crank pulley, stinger FMI, RFL BOV, Spec stage 3 clutch, B&M short throw, 140 speedo, Walbo 255lph, BBK fpr, 3G alternator, ARP studs.  Be faster... :poke:


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Reply #2
well that bumbs me out. Are there numbers saying what year it is from?
1987 turbo coupe 5speed: Boport stage 3 head/2.5 cam , Precision stage 3 50trim .63 turbo, Tial 38mm wastegate, Jangus gutted/ported intake manifolds, 60mm tb, Jangus open dumptube, Jangus 3" elbow, Perrin boost controller,Esslinger adjustable cam pulley, Esslinger small crank pulley, stinger FMI, RFL BOV, Spec stage 3 clutch, B&M short throw, 140 speedo, Walbo 255lph, BBK fpr, 3G alternator, ARP studs.  Be faster... :poke:


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Reply #4
Quote from: 88turbo;427108
there are no such numbers.

Say what??? There are plenty of numbers, no there is nothing to relate back to VIN(there is on block), but the casting(engineering number) and date cast will be on virtually EVERY head, block, intake etc Ford has produced for the last 50-60 years... If date is after vehicle build or more than a couple months prior that is a red flag... If engineering number is for a non turbo head that would be another red flag...

Unfortunately I don't know where the numbers are for a 2.3, but probably on the rough surface under valve cover...

In addition to info from flylear45 date is a alphanumeric three or four digits... For a head cast Jan 10 of '88 would read 8A10... System is first digit year, second month( A thru M, skip I) last one or two is day...

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Reply #5
The only thing on the head I see is L07
1987 turbo coupe 5speed: Boport stage 3 head/2.5 cam , Precision stage 3 50trim .63 turbo, Tial 38mm wastegate, Jangus gutted/ported intake manifolds, 60mm tb, Jangus open dumptube, Jangus 3" elbow, Perrin boost controller,Esslinger adjustable cam pulley, Esslinger small crank pulley, stinger FMI, RFL BOV, Spec stage 3 clutch, B&M short throw, 140 speedo, Walbo 255lph, BBK fpr, 3G alternator, ARP studs.  Be faster... :poke:

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Reply #6
Well you may ask over on NATO or Turbo Ford, someone should know where the numbers are... A 302/5.0 head has casting number in a recess on deck surface, impossible to read unless removed...

Here's a March 31 1978 date on a older 302 head...

Note the system repeats every decade so knowing the casting number will place the correct decade...


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Reply #8
so all the iron work on the car should all be within a couple  or 3 months of the door sticker like you said,, including the rear end?

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Reply #9
and in my diy link there is a "second year" grouping casting scheme as well.
Im not sure what the extra letter is for on each , first year production vs second year...





Reading Casting Dates
Casting dates:
Casting dates show the exact day, month and year a certain part was made or
cast. The typical casting date looks like "6M08".
Breaking down a casting date:
6 = The year of the decade. "6" for 1976.
M = The letter of the month. (December)
08 = The day of the month. (8th)
First year month codes:
ABCDEFGHIJKLM
JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugN/ASepOctNovDec

[COLOR="#B22222"][/COLOR]Second year month codes:
NOPQRSTUVWXYZ
JanN/AFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec

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Reply #10
So..let me get this straight...you have a car, modded a great deal (if it's the one you're referring to) and you're concerned with the head being numbers matching to the rest of of what little remains of an all original engine?


I'm not being smartassed, I just don't see the point in that example..? Unless you were wondering if the head was the original one, or whether it came from a N/A 2.3....


Now, if you were talking about a K code car....maybe these cars will be such hot shiznit some day many moons from now. Hope so!
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #11
Quote from: jcassity;427131
so all the iron work on the car should all be within a couple  or 3 months of the door sticker like you said,, including the rear end?


Basically yes, though legit vehicles have been found with earlier parts... Steering box on my 428CJ Fairlane Cobra pre dated the car by about five months, most other parts 2-4 weeks...


Here's a post I made over on the Comet/Maverick board about finding numbers on a '72 302, for the most part this info is applicable for all 302/5.0 & 351/5.8 small blocks...

http://mmb.maverick.to/showthread.php?t=94875


And here a video going over a original Cobra Jet 428 Cougar that's very in depth, watch it and you'll learn something... Was my inspiration for taking the pict of 302...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BxWh6R6OyUA

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Reply #12
on  your example 302, the engine assembly date you show it as
2F7 in the thread and the actual casting is 2F7Y

the Y is something i dont understand

logic would dicatate the stamp should have been 2F07

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Reply #13
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;427136
So..let me get this straight...you have a car, modded a great deal (if it's the one you're referring to) and you're concerned with the head being numbers matching to the rest of of what little remains of an all original engine?


I'm not being smartassed, I just don't see the point in that example..? Unless you were wondering if the head was the original one, or whether it came from a N/A 2.3....


Now, if you were talking about a K code car....maybe these cars will be such hot shiznit some day many moons from now. Hope so!

prob on another car he's researching

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Reply #14
Quote from: jcassity;427143
on  your example 302, the engine assembly date you show it as
2F7 in the thread and the actual casting is 2F7Y

the Y is something i dont understand

logic would dicatate the stamp should have been 2F07

We didn't use "0" as place holder in the 70s, that's all modern computer ... If it had been built the 10th would read 2F10... AFAIK same system is in place today...

The Y is the assembly line it was built on... Assuming there was more than one assembly line, a problem on the Y line could be easily identified... Yeah something I should have mentioned...

Engine was missing tag so I dunno if it was built at Windsor or Cleveland...