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Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #15
yep,, suckin too much gas..

if your making a habit of driving in D instead of OD on faster roads... that wont help.

you want to sell it, use a paperclip to pull your codes after its warm.
With CFI, its pretty much the same various parts that fail on SEFI.  The ECT / TPS /ACT & MAP all get involved in dumping the signal to to the EEC to supply a ground to your two injectors.

this way you can sell a car that you know is working right.

my full size bronco 351 gets 12mpg and thats normal for the 6800lb hulk.

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #16
It's not that the cel is burnt out, there simply is no cel on this car!
Current: 1986 Thunderbird, 105k 3.8/C5, 2 tone  Midnight Wine/Medium Taupe, wing windows, wire wheel covers.


Former: 1985 Cougar GS 115k Oxford White/Regatta Blue, 5.0, full console, 14" 8 hole aluminum T-Bird rims, Edelbrock valve covers.

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #17
Purchase a cheap code scanner for obd-1. The connector port is under the hood. If ya don't wanna spend the $20 you can use an anlog voltmeter to read codes
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Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #18
I ran out to AZ and got a cheap $4 test light, it did the job! It looks like ECT AND TPS are the issue (if i read them right)
Current: 1986 Thunderbird, 105k 3.8/C5, 2 tone  Midnight Wine/Medium Taupe, wing windows, wire wheel covers.


Former: 1985 Cougar GS 115k Oxford White/Regatta Blue, 5.0, full console, 14" 8 hole aluminum T-Bird rims, Edelbrock valve covers.

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #19
could have pulled codes with a test light or a cheap digital multi meter.

replace the tps for sure.

did you run the test when the car was warm? if not that could be a false code.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #20
oops, misread your post, thought you bought an actual scanner. fix the tps and let us know.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #21
Bear with me, because I'm not sure I counted them right, but I got these from the scan: 14, 15, 18, 21, 31, 53, 61, 83.

Not sure how to get the TPS off, the fast idle cam assembly interferes with removal of the TPS. http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?36574-High-idle&p=422976#post422976
Current: 1986 Thunderbird, 105k 3.8/C5, 2 tone  Midnight Wine/Medium Taupe, wing windows, wire wheel covers.


Former: 1985 Cougar GS 115k Oxford White/Regatta Blue, 5.0, full console, 14" 8 hole aluminum T-Bird rims, Edelbrock valve covers.

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #22
reference codes here.

 http://oldfuelinjection.com/index.php?p=14
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #23
are you running codes with the car on? all the codes I saw referenced to continuous memory codes. double check the codes. if you want, make a video and upload it, that way you can re check, and everyone else can.verify.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #24
I got these KOEO
Current: 1986 Thunderbird, 105k 3.8/C5, 2 tone  Midnight Wine/Medium Taupe, wing windows, wire wheel covers.


Former: 1985 Cougar GS 115k Oxford White/Regatta Blue, 5.0, full console, 14" 8 hole aluminum T-Bird rims, Edelbrock valve covers.

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #25
after looking at your codes, you have an erratic pipe sensor code. generally this means the pip in the dizzy or the ignition module (on the distributor) is bad, causing a loss of spark or intermittent miss. there are actually a few sensors not working that you really should replace.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #26
yep, the pick up module in the dizzy is not hard but can be hard if you have not done it before.

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #27
I pulled the neg cable to clear the codes, now the only one coming up is 83
Current: 1986 Thunderbird, 105k 3.8/C5, 2 tone  Midnight Wine/Medium Taupe, wing windows, wire wheel covers.


Former: 1985 Cougar GS 115k Oxford White/Regatta Blue, 5.0, full console, 14" 8 hole aluminum T-Bird rims, Edelbrock valve covers.

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #28
continuous memory codes are only stored for 20 key cycles. if you had those codes, you had those problems.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Considering selling my Cougar

Reply #29
Bump - might be interested if you're still considering selling.
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