Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #60 – October 06, 2015, 11:26:00 PM Quote from: thunderjet302;451628Or a way to shrink full size cars to matchbox size and then make them full size again when you want to drive them .you are a genius, i know just who to call.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W_ph68w6SM Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #61 – October 07, 2015, 12:24:39 PM I was thinking of this guy actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U68aYI5LhvMEdit: I just realized that movie came out when I was 4 years old........ Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #62 – October 07, 2015, 12:27:26 PM Quote from: thunderjet302;451640I was thinking of this guy actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U68aYI5LhvMEdit: I just realized that movie came out when I was 4 years old........Im so old, i fart dust. Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #63 – October 07, 2015, 12:36:57 PM I'm not that old yet. I think .Back on topic a bit. On your current 83 how late was it built? I'm curious if the wiring color coding matches an 83 car or an 84 car. My 88 Thunderbird is a very early build car (4628 off the line) and it has some odd overlaps with an 87 car. For instance the wires are color coded to an 87 car but it has the vss sensor wired into the engine harness, something no 87 car had. Also being an early build car it has metal rear window trim instead of the rubber trim. Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #64 – October 07, 2015, 06:53:20 PM There are almost always some overlap near end or beginning of year... The '86 Grand Marquis my uncle ordered for my mom(he owned a dealership) near end of '86 production had a set of 1987 plug wires and the wedge base 3157 tail lamp bulbs, those were supposedly not used till '87... Lowest Lorain VIN for '83 is 101147 which is likely one of the first '83 off their line(As long as we're counting in the first 1500 or so)... For Atlanta first is 118617, followed by 119737, 120667 etc which likely indicates Atlanta was building other models prior to and along with T-Birds, so VINs prior to say 115000/117000 are all for what other model they built... I know in the late '60s & early '70s ATL built Full Size & Torino, those VINs were assigned in sequence irregardless of model or build day... VINs are always assigned on paper/computer as they are received from dealer, on the line 123456 could be built days or even weeks apart from 123457... Note early builds are likely built fairly close together, but if there is a shortage from supplier for say blue leather upholstery(yeah bad example), those builds could be held up a few days/weeks till the product arrives at assembly plant... Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #65 – October 07, 2015, 07:34:51 PM So parts overlap from one year to the next isn't that uncommon for late/early build cars. Makes sense as they are probably using up leftover parts. Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #66 – October 07, 2015, 07:46:50 PM Quote from: thunderjet302;451628Or a way to shrink full size cars to matchbox size and then make them full size again when you want to drive them .You would need a De-Bigulator to shrink them. Unfortunately making them full-size again would require some sort of Re-Bigulator, a concept so ridiculous it makes me want to laugh out loud... Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #67 – October 08, 2015, 01:31:38 PM Quote from: thunderjet302;451651So parts overlap from one year to the next isn't that uncommon for late/early build cars. Makes sense as they are probably using up leftover parts.Sorta, there are parts from some years that just can't be used as there was a major change in model year(IE '86 to '87 Bird/Coug)... The '86 to '87 Grand Marquis was virtually the same car...I've never seen a '88 Turbo Coupe with anything other than the Hitachi alt, by same token all '87 apparently had a Ford 2G... Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #68 – October 08, 2015, 05:46:52 PM The lowest 1983 T'bird VINs that I am showing in my VIN lists are....AtlantaV6: 115600V8: 115650TC: 139002LorainV6: 100001V8: 100005TC: 109822The lowest 1983 T'birds that I have entered into the database are....AtlantaV6: 118617V8: 145008TC: 143965LorainV6: 115295V8: 108275TC: 122371 Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #69 – October 08, 2015, 05:57:09 PM Reason the Atlanta VINs start so high in 1983 is because that plant produced more than one Ford model that year. The (Fox) LTD was also produced there. The first 15,599 VINs assigned at Atlanta Assembly in 1983 were LTDs. Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #70 – October 08, 2015, 06:01:27 PM Remember this YT video I posted last December? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Ju4E4ej9g#t=38 Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #71 – October 09, 2015, 09:42:27 AM Quote from: FoxChassis;451673The lowest 1983 T'bird VINs that I am showing in my VIN lists are....AtlantaV6: 115600V8: 115650TC: 139002LorainV6: 100001V8: 100005TC: 109822The lowest 1983 T'birds that I have entered into the database are....AtlantaV6: 118617V8: 145008TC: 143965LorainV6: 115295V8: 108275TC: 122371Quote from: FoxChassis;451674Reason the Atlanta VINs start so high in 1983 is because that plant produced more than one Ford model that year. The (Fox) LTD was also produced there. The first 15,599 VINs assigned at Atlanta Assembly in 1983 were LTDs.Great info! Thanks!!! Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #72 – October 09, 2015, 02:24:33 PM Quote from: FoxChassis;451674Reason the Atlanta VINs start so high in 1983 is because that plant produced more than one Ford model that year. The (Fox) LTD was also produced there. The first 15,599 VINs assigned at Atlanta Assembly in 1983 were LTDs.Yeah I figured Atlanta was producing some other model just wasn't sure what...Assuming a later introduction, the 100005 first V8 VIN surely falls outside normal production, was likely a pilot/preproduction model... Generally preproduction applies to the first few builds with VIN less than 100050... Guessing the lowest Atl VINS are preproduction as well, those don't really stand out...Before Norfolk Assembly closed I knew a couple supervisors... They'd generally build a few next year preproduction models a few weeks prior to ceasing current production(looking for assembly issues that may need modifying), those always had extremely low VINs Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #73 – October 09, 2015, 11:09:28 PM Very few early V8 VINs at Lorain in 1983..1FABP46F9DH1000051FABP46F2DH1000071FABP46F4DH1000081FABP46F5DH1000171FABP46F5DH1000511FABP46F0DH1000541FABP46F4DH1000561FABP46F0DH1028861FABP46F3DH1049691FABP46F0DH1050581FABP46F4DH1051751FABP46F2DH1051881FABP46F4DH105189.. Quote Selected
Earliest 1983 TBird Reply #74 – October 10, 2015, 01:39:51 PM Quote from: FoxChassis;451702Very few early V8 VINs at Lorain in 1983..1FABP46F9DH1000051FABP46F2DH1000071FABP46F4DH1000081FABP46F5DH1000171FABP46F5DH1000511FABP46F0DH1000541FABP46F4DH1000561FABP46F0DH1028861FABP46F3DH1049691FABP46F0DH1050581FABP46F4DH1051751FABP46F2DH1051881FABP46F4DH105189..The ones through 0056 are likely pilot cars... VINs were possibly reserved could have been built weeks apart...Do you have any other info on these cars??? For pilot cars generally DSO is 89 for Home Office Reserve, often these are test mules and not sold(though some are)... I had a '76 Stang II that was 100026.. Quote Selected
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