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5 lug wheels.....

Reply #15
No worries my man..you guys see any bad weather the last few days?
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #16
Lots of rain and some high winds, but, no tornadoes as there was an hour and a half north of us. My grandmother's house was leveled, but she lives in cali with my parents as of last fall. Insurance will cover her losses.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #17
Sn 95 axels without the exciter ring of course, box body mid 80's grand marquis 10" drums. Sure fit

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Reply #18
Wouldn't a used SN95 rear from a 94-98 car with gears already installed would be much easier to install and in the long run cheaper?  I would think there would be one or two up for sale in OKC/Ardmore area with Thunder Valley close by and the track at Ardmore (always had a great time there).

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #19
I've been comparing measurements on Napa's website, and I THINK that 80something to 92 2wd ranger rotors might be what the coolcats article is referring to when it references 5-lug rotors as a direct swap.  The bearing cups are a little bigger OD (talking about thousandths of an inch) and the rotor diameter is about .2 inches larger, but the thickness is identical, as is the overall hub height with the rotor laying flat.  Also, the bearings have the same cup angle and cup width, so our original bearings should ride happy a few thousandths deeper in the cup, but otherwise ok.  I'm going to pick up a used one, I think, to test fit and I'll get back with results in a week or so.

I want to use left hand Ranger axles, too, but I think I'm going to get the matching backing plates, shoes, drums, cylinders and so on.  Sure the Ranger drums are an inch wider, but that's all toward the axle .  From what I hear it will work, and give me somewhat better back brakes.  I just bought a 7.5 LSD, so I'll have it all apart, anyway.

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Reply #20
The ranger front rotors are what you are looking for but 10" brakes up front are a joke at best with these cars.  Even with the ranger rotor swap your rim choice is limited due to the larger hub.  I'm not saying it cannot be done but it is a rig at best because it typically involves grinding on the hub or leaving the dust cap off.  This is the same problem with the Fox Mustang 5.0 or 87-88 TC front spindle swap and using the Lincoln Mark VII rotors to go to five lug.  I went this route and it was a waste of money and when I finally moved over to the SN95 style of five lug my old swap "kit" was worthless as the SN95 stuff is so plentiful in salvage yards no one wants the older stuff that limits them in rim choice.  Just my 0.02 on it.

Just remember to be careful with your brakes as you go mucking with the brakes the factory proportioning valve may no longer put the correct bias in the car as well as the MC & booster may not be sized properly for the brakes you choose.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #21
Quote from: Aerocoupe;416398
Just remember to be careful with your brakes as you go mucking with the brakes the factory proportioning valve may no longer put the correct bias in the car as well as the MC & booster may not be sized properly for the brakes you choose. Darren

That's why I went with the setup I have...I didn't have time or inclination to swap master and/or booster and prop valve. I might someday, and I do have a set of TC park brake cables that are functional, I just wanted something cheap, reliable, and easy to find, and as I already had the Sport's 10" brake back plates, the rest was some measuring and collaboration with another member who did the same thing at about the same time.

So for me, it was just what I needed and wanted. If one could find a complete 8.8 from a '94-'8 GT, then yeah, that might be a better plan, but those crs aren't common in the yards here, and usually they don't last more than a couple of days when they do come in.
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #22
Anything on the Ranger rotors that is just a little too much isn't a problem for me. If the hubs are a fuzz bigger at the wheel hub hole, I'll just lathe it down a little (as long as we're only talking a little)  for example, the ranger rotor diameter is .2" larger.  Hello Ammco brake lathe and new bits. You might not believe what you can do when you turn the drum wheel instead of the rotor wheel.  I've worked odd parts on the brake lathe before, it's not a big deal.  Our Hunter lathe won't to do it, but the Ammco is a bit more flexible.

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Reply #23
A little preliminary info:
*The rotor "hat" is 5.5mm larger radius - contacts pad backing, machined bottom half of "hat" down 2.5mm, pads now have good clearance to the hub
*The rotor has .1 inch larger radius - no contact with caliper or spindle, no action taken
*The hub height is 3.2mm greater - bearings are 3.2mm further apart causing the spindle nut and lock to partially cover the pin hole, applied a small curve to the pin before installation
The bearing cups are 1mm larger OD - Tbird bearings fit the races perfectly, but the dust cap no longer fits, will obtain ranger dust caps

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Reply #24
Disc Brakes R Us has the 5 lug rear rotors that will work with the TC rear when using the SN95 rear axles. Send an email to Tom Reid (tom@discbrakesrus.com) and he can give you the info on them. I haven't bought them yet, but they are $139 per set.

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Reply #25
Quote from: 50RACER;416639
Disc Brakes R Us has the 5 lug rear rotors that will work with the TC rear when using the SN95 rear axles. Send an email to Tom Reid (tom@discbrakesrus.com) and he can give you the info on them. I haven't bought them yet, but they are $139 per set.

If this is legit, this should be made a sticky. A little pricey, but if you're dead set on 5 lug rear discs with our track width, what else ya gon' doo, boy? LOL
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #26
I can't locate them on their web page, but the part number is 5455. Their page is kind of difficult to navigate and their search is not working at present. Following are the dimensions that Tom Reid emailed to me. I contacted them in February and he sent photos from their web page.

overall height 2-21/64  diameter 10-11/64 (type vented rotor)
 
bolt circle 4-1/2 inch (Ford mustang)

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Reply #27
Do you know if they are vented or solid rotors?
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)


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Reply #29
vented