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Reply #15 – March 25, 2013, 07:12:16 AM

Quote from: Chooglin;411719

Tom, there is no doubt that you are a man of knowledge "you prove that over and over" but as said above,there are more than 1 opinion that counts.
you are very persistent at wanting people to see things your way.That is how these threads go off on a tangent and become "wrecked"

In IMO ,you have done this to several threads on this board.this board is about spreading your knowledge and helping others with problems,
Not convincing others to agree with your opinion.

I hope to see you hang around and continue to help others here,but do it in a diff. manner than in the past.

Quoted for emphasis.

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Reply #16 – March 25, 2013, 09:56:04 AM

Tom, as my post count indicates, I am the newest member to comment on this subject thus far. I've read a lot of your posts and while I think the wording of your posts could sometimes be a little more "friendly", for lack of a better word, I very much appreciate your knowledge and your willingness to share it as well as your honesty. I like people like that. I don't wear my feelings on my sleeve and when there is knowledge to be gained from your experience, I'll sift through the info and opinions that aren't beneficial to me and take out and use what is. You have been helpful to me. Keep it up! :)

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Reply #17 – March 25, 2013, 10:11:24 AM

Its rarely the message, and often the delivery that people can be at odds with in general. I am not mechanically inclined enough to jump into many of the technical threads for not wanting to sound like a dummy, so i do count on the knowledgeable people to discuss the things i have no depth about. I think there are many ways to accomplish a goal with the same result....i think its about economy of action and efficiency that it comes down to in the end. When i use my photo gear, i can secure a loose fitting strobe head with 3 turns of a screw, or a half of a roll of duct tape. They both work and accomplish the same end, albeit one is a more elegant solution than the other. One can only suggest to others, and no matter how well intentioned the message, people will not hear it if they feel intimidated or don't like the tone. ALl that being said, i think you are a nice person, and good man with a generally positive message. Keep on contributing.....

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Reply #18 – March 25, 2013, 12:41:45 PM

Also, technically, this thread is "trolling" by another definition. Trolling is also a form of fishing (in the literal sense) by slowly dragging lines behind a boat, in hopes to lure fish. (But I'm sure you know that)

This thread was dropped here "fishing" for support. You tossed it off the back of your boat and idled along hoping people would "bite" and tell you that you're "OK".

I almost deleted it as soon as it was posted, simply because I'm tired of all the BS from all sides. I hate these fishing type of threads.

Yes, you have knowledge and experience that folks will find useful. HOWEVER, not everyone is going to agree with what you say and how you do things. Even less people are going to agree with your delivery, especially when you flat out tell them that their ideas are STUPID or DUMB, mainly because you don't agree with them. Backing that up with the passive-aggressive "What do I know, anyway?" jabs is just added flavor for annoyance.

Stop riding threads to the ground just because you MUST prove to all involved that your way is the best and only way, and everyone else knows nothing compared to you.

Maybe you don't see that you're doing it, but I imagine you're not that oblivious to it. Perhaps you're not "trolling" in the urban dictionary definition of looking for a fight or just being as ass because you can, but you certainly try hard to make sure everyone knows you're right...

Just calling it how I see it.

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Reply #19 – March 25, 2013, 12:51:31 PM

Quote from: Chuck W;411812

Backing that up with the passive-aggressive "What do I know, anyway?" jabs is just added flavor for annoyance.

Yes, those kinds of statements don't earn any kudos when you're discussing fastener science with someone who specs out fasteners for military aviation applications as a part of his job.

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Reply #20 – March 25, 2013, 02:01:44 PM

Can we please just accept other people's diffrences? Some people like different things. Some people see things differently. Some people go about doing things a different way. Not to mention, some people have to do things differently because they have to (money is tight for some of us). Many times there is multiple ways to accomplish the same thing. Most importanty, could we please just treat each other with respect?

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Reply #21 – March 25, 2013, 04:15:37 PM

Quote from: Chuck W;411812

Also, technically, this thread is "trolling" by another definition. Trolling is also a form of fishing (in the literal sense) by slowly dragging lines behind a boat, in hopes to lure fish. (But I'm sure you know that)

This thread was dropped here "fishing" for support. You tossed it off the back of your boat and idled along hoping people would "bite" and tell you that you're "OK".

I almost deleted it as soon as it was posted, simply because I'm tired of all the BS from all sides. I hate these fishing type of threads.

Yes, you have knowledge and experience that folks will find useful. HOWEVER, not everyone is going to agree with what you say and how you do things. Even less people are going to agree with your delivery, especially when you flat out tell them that their ideas are STUPID or DUMB, mainly because you don't agree with them. Backing that up with the passive-aggressive "What do I know, anyway?" jabs is just added flavor for annoyance.

Stop riding threads to the ground just because you MUST prove to all involved that your way is the best and only way, and everyone else knows nothing compared to you.

Maybe you don't see that you're doing it, but I imagine you're not that oblivious to it. Perhaps you're not "trolling" in the urban dictionary definition of looking for a fight or just being as ass because you can, but you certainly try hard to make sure everyone knows you're right...

Just calling it how I see it.

This will be my last post on this thread,but I just had to comment on the fact that Chuck seen my post exactly how it was meant to be!!!!!

As far as line 2 in Chucks comment,he succeeded in doing just that !!!!.............he is going to have himself a nice fish fry when he gets home
because he has a stringer full of fish.

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Reply #22 – March 25, 2013, 05:11:36 PM

What's that old saying, if ten people tell you there's a problem, they can't be all wrong....

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Reply #23 – March 25, 2013, 07:09:35 PM

My friend has a 1990 Corvette with the L98 350 and always complains that he can't believe how much more "racecar-ish" "howling" and just flat out mean my Ford small blocks sound, where his car just doesn't have that. You can't argue with results, and so the natural solution ought to be, well IDIOT put a Ford mill in there and your problems are solved. Now you have the thing you wish for, but you just ruined the Chevrolet halo car by putting a Ford motor in it. There are surely other solutions, maybe more costly, maybe that require more ingenuity and work, less self-explanatory, but they will do the job and not dilute the origin of the car with something totally foreign. "You can't argue with results"...except when the word results takes on a much more broad and multi-level definition than *just* horsepower or *just* airflow or *just* driveability. Which of course varies widely, car to car, owner to owner.

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Reply #24 – March 25, 2013, 07:20:52 PM

Quote from: ZondaC12;411851

My friend has a 1990 Corvette with the L98 350 and always complains that he can't believe how much more "racecar-ish" "howling" and just flat out mean my Ford small blocks sound, where his car just doesn't have that.

First...the Corvette wasn't really meant to sound like a redneck hoopty, with screaming exhaust and a vibrating engine...think a higher level of refinement than a late 60's, big cammed-and-carbed big-block musclecar. Hell, today's Honda Civic could probably come pretty close to handing an L98 'Vette it's ass from a stoplight..

Secondly...while most of us think the essential rumble of a small block is key to a hot car....to some people, little more than a quiet gurgle is too much.

Now, I'm not saying that YOUR car is redneckian NASACR screamer, but the '90 Vette was no world class Ferrari, either. Sometimes, muscle doesn't have to be overstated. I don't care for exhausts that sounds like they're been all but hacked off, and I hate the way glasspacks sound. They sound like shiznit, I honestly think.

With THAT said...how can you compare a chebette...errr, corvette....to the greatest late '80s rear drive V8 car to ever roll out of Lorain Ohio?!

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Reply #25 – March 25, 2013, 10:06:32 PM

He does actually have dynomax bullets on it (glasspacks haha) which are midmounted because that's about all there is space for in that tiny tunnel. It had Flowmasters in the back, and it's still pretty much the same syndrome - it doesn't have much tone to it, not much "roar", I just hear the cylinders and that seems to be it. When we finally found out the factory tach was too high by about 1500 RPM on the top end, that did help because he didn't short shift the hell out of it anymore lol. It does sound pissed off when he hammers on it. But with my dumped Flowmasters, hell even in the black car with open header cutouts, if you're not RIGHT next to the car or inside it (like in my burnout video on my facebook page) it still has that "SBF howl" as he and I say anyway. Maybe it's his 2.25" instead of 2.5" exhaust. Maybe it's a combination of things. Usually stacked influences contribute much more strongly than any one given problem. In any case it's mean and the car is lots of fun to rip around in, and that's all that matters :)

As a side note: worse still is he looks at anything with an LS motor and wonders why the hell those have a much more roaring note to 'em. I wonder myself too, it is in the end, still a pushrod 350. With much better airflow...

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Reply #26 – March 26, 2013, 03:12:37 AM

Nah. Any LS has so much more air flow than the older Gen II engines, even with the TPI intake. (Jesus Christ, WHY am I knowing of this shiznit? Shoot me please.)

The LS makes good power because of the ability to flow so well out of the box. Heads and intake, and probably some valve angle help that a bit too.

Not saying the LT1/Vortec engines are junk (well, except for that godawful optispark...thing) but the LS engine will eat them alive, if you compare same same size engines, and so forth.

Geeze, makes me out to be a troll here, and all.

Anywho, back to the Blue Oval, now :)

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Reply #27 – March 26, 2013, 11:04:02 AM

Yeah, and no matter who the manufacturer is....a V8 is a V8. It's not gonna sound like a fart-canned Honda/Yota/Mistu/et al. So he should be thankful for that!!! lol

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Reply #28 – March 26, 2013, 05:12:46 PM

So I have a spare turbo 2.3 and was gonna drop it in a ranger I have sitting, and seriously thought about putting a fart can on it for giggles. Pull up to ricer in my little ranger with the fart can at a light would just be hilarious.

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Reply #29 – March 27, 2013, 12:11:36 AM

^^Put 5.0 badges on each fender, and tell the rice pilots that you have a leaking manifold and a bad plug wire..lol