1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #75 – March 23, 2013, 10:01:41 PM What's the latest Thunder I can you for an easy switch? its a 1989 correct???? Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #76 – March 23, 2013, 10:06:27 PM 88 sorry Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #77 – March 23, 2013, 10:13:05 PM 1987 or 1988 preferred, 1986 should be OK as well... 1989 was the first year of the MN-12 chassis, didn't even offer a V8... The '91-'93 Bird 5.0 HO would be a good choice but few other parts would be useable for your swap... Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #78 – March 23, 2013, 10:24:24 PM Thanks A lot! I just found a a website with over 200 pages of just salvage tbirds for sale (not the exact years I'm looking for but still)! Pumped! Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #79 – March 24, 2013, 10:57:20 AM if it comes down to the fact that you cannot find a good roller block, power can still be made with a flat tappet cam. all these issues people say they always have, I've never had with my 302 in my mustang. with a flat tappet torker 2 cam. the car runs great. good driveability. and runs low 9's in the 1/8th. don't let anyone discourage you on what YOU want to do. its your car. Do what you want, the good thing about the internet, is people have probably done it before, and are willing to help. on anything car wise. Don't let Tom discourage you. He Trolls threads for his own amusp00get. Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #80 – March 24, 2013, 07:03:29 PM Ok 8 Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #81 – March 24, 2013, 07:43:33 PM If people don't chill the hell out, there will be involuntary vacations from the forum.No more name-calling, and no more whining about people not listening to what you have to say. Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #82 – March 24, 2013, 09:00:10 PM No, i'm done with this. Quite honestly, if someone has a different opinion, its an issue with you. I understand that you have years of experience, but so do i. I don't need to stuff it in anyways face. You don't need to tell me anything about "roundy round" cars.i work for a ARCA team, and just got back from DAytona less then a month ago, so enlighten me. WERE NOT racing "roundy round", not the subject. the kid has a flat tappet block he wanted to build. ON A BUDGET. and this would have been a solution. So i added my two cents. There are other options. if a flat tappet cam is so bad, why has my car ran since 86. on the same cam. i understand it isnt the best technology anymore, but its still available and can be used. DONT you question my intelligence. EVER. Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #83 – March 24, 2013, 09:11:53 PM Wow, great job shiznitting up the new guys thread. Gekell we are not all like this here, so don't run away.I don't think people understand how much time they waste out of their lives trying to push their opinions on others over an internet forum. I think more would be gained for you expending that energy out in the world actually doing something. Like working on your car. Just my 2 cents, take it how you will. Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #84 – March 24, 2013, 09:17:33 PM Any ways back on topic. If you're looking for front dress (timing cover, water pump, accessory brackets, accessories, fan, fan shroud) any 86-88 Thunderbird or Cougar with a 5.0 will work. Also any Mark VIIs from 1986-1992 have the same front dress as 86-88 Thunderbirds and Cougars. It's also possible the front dress from an 86-93 5.0 Mustang might work as well. I know they had a slightly different front dress due to a lower hood line. Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #85 – March 24, 2013, 09:23:25 PM I found on ebay where they sell engines yanked out of Crown Vics and Grand Marquis most are stripped of the AC unit, tranny, starter, alternator, transfercase, air pump, and a few others.But they do have all of the wiring harnesses and fuel system. They seem to be all right around $300-$350. All have over 100k on miles. a few questions on it.1 has anyone else bought these?2 good buy?3 how much more needed4 should i try to rebuild and get more hp and torque or let it stay at 160ish hp and 270 toque? <-iffy question soooooo yeah Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #86 – March 24, 2013, 09:28:45 PM Quote from: Gekell;411761I found on ebay where they sell engines yanked out of Crown Vics and Grand Marquis most are stripped of the AC unit, tranny, starter, alternator, transfercase, air pump, and a few others.But they do have all of the wiring harnesses and fuel system. They seem to be all right around $300-$350. All have over 100k on miles. a few questions on it.1 has anyone else bought these?2 good buy?3 how much more needed4 should i try to rebuild and get more hp and torque or let it stay at 160ish hp and 270 toque? <-iffy question soooooo yeahThe engine long block and timing cover/oil pan are the same. The rest of the stuff may or may not work as I'm not sure. The fuel rails might be different. I wouldn't use the wiring harness from the Crown Vic/Grand Marquis. It is a different animal than the Fox harness. If you're going to rebuild the engine (which I would recommend) you can modify the engine to make what ever power level you want :). Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #87 – March 24, 2013, 10:08:40 PM If I had a cracked flat tappet block and I was going back to the drawing board for an engine donor, I'd go with a 96 or 97 Explorer 5.0. Here's why:1. GT40 - heads, upper and lower intakes, 65mm throttlebody, internal EGR, easy headers.2. Roller - I believe this has already been covered in sufficient detail.3. Short nose water pump/accessories - If you use explorer's complete front dress, you get a quieter P/S pump, a better water pump, a 3G alternator and NO smog pump, not to mention more clearance for a better radiator and electric fan.This isn't to say you'll have the easiest time of installing it, you'll have to pull the coils and cam synchro and replace it with a distributor, you'll have to rearrange the way you connect vacuum, you'll have to come up with a shorter coolant inlet hose (because of the oil cooler), you'll have to swap the oil pan and pickup, and you'll have to have AC hoses made and you'll want to swap out the teeny little Explorer cam for an HO cam (to keep the computer happy). You will need headers (HO stockers at least), you'll want an H-Pipe, and you'll have to get Mark VII mid-pipes to connect the H to the lers. You'll be rewarded with around 270-280 HP. You can reduce the obstacles by using a T-Bird/Cougar/Mark VII accessory dress, but in giving up some difficulties, you'll also give up some of those secondary benefits. Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #88 – March 24, 2013, 10:19:36 PM sometimes you can find some pretty decent deals within the company i work for. LKQ. they tend to get rid of the older stuff and give it away at great deals. might be something to look into. Quote Selected
1987 ThunderBird Turbo Coupe to 5.0Li and AOD Reply #89 – March 24, 2013, 10:23:44 PM Just searched http://www.car-part.com for 96 Explorer 5.0 and found a few here in Iowa from $325-$750. Did not search for 97's. Not sure where you are at, but I bet a yard somewhere close to you has one.1996EngineFord Explorer GOOD 5.0L--JOEL,NTS 74,000 A 010186 $750 Carney Auto Parts - QRP Central USA-IA(Ames) Request_Quote 1-888-262-3808 Please Call Ahead Request_Insurance_Quote 1996EngineFord Explorer 5.0,AT,8-95,MFI,RWD,175 COMP 199,101 A L60786 $325 Northend Wrecking - QRP Central USA-IA(Dubuque) Request_Quote 1-800-545-88851996EngineFord Explorer 165000 3884 $400 Olsen's Auto Salvage USA-IA(Rowley) Request_Quote 1-877-499-4174 Request_Insurance_Quote1996EngineFord Explorer STARTS AND RUNS 141,000 A VI12 $500 Dons Auto and Truck Salvage USA-IA(Des-Moines) Request_Quote 1-800-372-6000 Request_Insurance_Quote Quote Selected
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