gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #60 – January 17, 2013, 02:09:00 PM Not a big fan of Cars myself, but to each their own. The world is full of all types of car guys, with all types of opinion's on what is acceptable and "Right" as far as mods go. In reality no one has ever been right here on this topic, this is all opinion, and if someone wants to ize their car, I honestly don't see why any "sane" person would care... I do understand that most car guys are fairly insane though, it's a sickness that creeps in over time, lol. I honestly can't leave anything alone and stock myself, but I do keep my Ford's all FORD, and my Dodge's all Chrysler. Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #61 – January 17, 2013, 02:17:26 PM Put the LS1 engine in a Ford car. Paint the block blue. Move the coils off of the valve covers. Put a ford sticker on each valve cover. Take off anything that says GM.Watch and laugh as 75% of people who see it never realize it's not a Ford engine. I'd do it. I'd put a 6.2 (new) Hemi in, as well. Even a Coyote.For that matter, a guy came into the place I work last week, asked me if I wanted to buy the engine from his wrecked '12 Boss 302 Stang. Make him an offer, he said. So yeah...if you've got the means, do whatever. I may not agree with it, but like I said before, if it's fast, looks good and doesn't look like 3 drunks put it together with 10 feet of baling wire and a roll of duct tape, then what's not to like.After all, GM copied the good ole Windsor Ford's design with the LS engines.... Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #62 – January 17, 2013, 07:24:30 PM Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;407273After all, GM copied the good ole Windsor Ford's design with the LS engines.... Cue Tom in 3.....2.....1...... Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #63 – January 17, 2013, 08:55:42 PM I think is anybody who owns a car wants to put whatever engine they choose into that car, it's the right thing to do. Chevy engine or not, better than another one of these cars crushed and gone forever. Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #64 – January 17, 2013, 09:30:36 PM I guess as long as it don't have v tec lmfao Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #66 – January 17, 2013, 09:35:11 PM Thunderbirdsport302 and Vinnie both have the right idea on this. I myself hate swaps, but if that is what you want to do, we should assist you in any way possible. As for your question, I have never seen it done. I would look to some Mustang sites for assistance with this. I don't think there has been any engine not put in one of those. Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #67 – January 17, 2013, 09:49:35 PM Quote from: TOM Renzo;407310Sorry the LS engines were a present from SAAB engineers which GM owned . Nothing of the LS motor is FordJust like the GM guys say the 302 is a chevy base engine. Hope this clears that up!!FACT Also the ford boys are just mad because they needed a supercharged motor to beat the ls1.Fair enough!!!Then you tell me why Yates was brought inhouse to help with the design of the LS....Tell me why they have several and obvious visual similarities with the SBF.Tell me why the bore centers are identical to the SBF.Want me to go on?Not bashing....but it is true.And, before you crow about a supercharger this, turbo that....remember the LS has more cubes than a 5.0, let alone a 4.6 lolAnd the Chevy 302 was built to satisfy Trans Am rules. Engine displacement to not exceed 5 liters. Not sure exactly how the method was, but I think it involved a 327 block and a 283 crank. This was done, as I stated, for the race series.QuoteChevrolet produced a special 302 cu in (4.9 L) (referred to as 5.0 L) engine for Sports Car Club of America SCCA Trans-Am Series road-racing from 1967–1969. It was the product of placing the 283 3-inch stroke crankshaft into a 4-inch bore 327 block. Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #68 – January 17, 2013, 09:51:00 PM Thanks Tom......Right on cue! LolOn a more serious note, I am not much of a GM fan. I do have to say GM done their homework with the LS1. One would have to be a fool to not see that. SAAB huh. Didn't see that coming. I know nothing about SAAB. Interesting info. Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #70 – January 17, 2013, 09:56:31 PM Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;407314Then you tell me why Yates was brought inhouse to help with the design of the LS....Tell me why they have several and obvious visual similarities with the SBF.Tell me why the bore centers are identical to the SBF.Want me to go on?Not bashing....but it is true.And, before you crow about a supercharger this, turbo that....remember the LS has more cubes than a 5.0, let alone a 4.6 lol Be careful my friend. This thread is already a heated discussion. Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #71 – January 17, 2013, 09:59:58 PM Quote from: TOM Renzo;407316 the LS base engine is a completely new design and has nothing to do with FORD. If in fact the engine is a ford based engine Talk about contradiction! Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #72 – January 17, 2013, 10:03:24 PM Chrome my buddy Jim Wilson a design engineer for GM turned me on to this fact. The guy is a genius and well respected engineer. He retired several years ago. His dad and my dad were good friends and jim is my buddy. Either way the FORD V CHEVY arguments will go on for infamy. Either way the COYOTE is the flag ship of Ford and the new engine is an ass kicker. No GM dude will mess with 666 HP SHELBY from the BLUR OVAL. The new FORD engines are the shiznit!! Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #73 – January 17, 2013, 10:17:46 PM Quote from: TOM Renzo;407320Chrome my buddy Jim Wilson a design engineer for GM turned me on to this fact. The guy is a genius and well respected engineer. He retired several years ago. His dad and my dad were good friends and jim is my buddy. Either way the FORD V CHEVY arguments will go on for infamy. Either way the COYOTE is the flag ship of Ford and the new engine is an ass kicker. No GM dude will mess with 666 HP SHELBY from the BLUR OVAL. The new FORD engines are the shiznit!! Just had to point out the fact that you contradicted yourself. However the design went, GM deserves a pat on the back for the LS1 as does Ford on the Coyote. As an added note, Coyote makes great power. As far as longevity...... Only time can tell. Quote Selected
gen 1 sbc swap? Reply #74 – January 17, 2013, 10:34:05 PM I feel I need to point out that the Shelby engine is NOT Coyote based. The 5.8L DOHC SC engine is in fact based on an expanded 5.4L with a better blower and an evaporator core built into the intercooler. Many ancillary parts are also dramatically improved requisite to the increased output, but it's still just a blown Mod Motor. The Apex Predator of the engine family, sure, but NOT Coyote based. We had one out already with a scored cam journal. We tore the head apart and it looked like somebody assembled it with a grain of sand or other debris on the cam journal or maybe on the head (the cam supports don't have replaceable bearings, the cam rides directly on aluminum and oil). Ford sends us a COMPLETE unit. TB to drain plug, pre-filled with 5W50, even. New harness already installed, headers, it even had a flywheel and clutch on it. $28,000 or about half the cost of the car.Perhaps it's just a coincidence, but all SVT engines are hand built and have a placard on the cam cover with the signature of the 2 builders. This engine was signed by 2 women. Quote Selected
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