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Reply #15
I believe the shooter was autistic. They perceive the world very differently than we do.

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Reply #16
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;404602
I am going to put 50 bucks in my paypal and give it to them. If I can afford some used car parts, I can afford this. Those poor kids, the ones lost, the ones who survived, and will always have the horror in their minds...the parents who will spend the rest of their lives asking why...

yeah, I'll donate as soon as I can get my money into my paypal.

Thank you very much. I'll update you on our progress later. Here is a link to the facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/TeddyBearDriveCt There should also be a website up later today, but I just used the paypal app on my phone and sent my donation to  teddybeardrivect@gmail.com. Took me all of 15 seconds to do.

Items being sought: 650 teddy bears, 650 sets of crayons, 650 sets of markers, 650 sets of colored pencils, pencil toppers, smencils, fun school supply items.
These items will be given to the school to dispurse as a small act of comfort to the children when they return to their classes.
Also, in lieu of these items you can donate monies to be used to purchase items not collected. All extra monie
s collected will be donated directly to the school to be used to memorialize the victims as they deem appropriate.

Shipping addresses for donations, use either:

Michelle Forbes c/o CSA International
222 Pitkin St. Suite 114
East Hartford, CT 06108

Scott L. Leone
138 D Main St
Somers, CT 06071

websites will be fully up and running Sunday:
teddybeardrivect.com
teddybeardrivect.org


paypal donation account: teddybeardrivect@gmail.com

donation drop off points:

Mini Donut Factory(during mall hours only) - Holyoke Mall Holyoke MA and Buckland Mall, Manchester, CT POC is Carla or Sheena
144 Lone Oak Drive, New Milford, CT - Poc Jill
Independence Unlimited, 151 New Park Ave, suite D Hartford CT - POC Candace
138D Main St, Somers, CT - POC Scott
908 Overhill Dr. Suffield, CT - POC Jeanie
8 Sharon Drive New City, NY 10956 - POC Abby
NHS Print, 363 E Central Street, Franklin, MA M-F 8a-5p - POC Kristen

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Reply #17
Sharing the info on FB now. many thanks :bowdown::bowdown:
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Reply #18
Quote from: TOM Renzo;404603
Some of my customers are from Newtown a town away from us and 1 exit from our shop on the highway. Today we found out 2 of the children  were from customers. This is beyond belief as why would a person hurt kids. I sat last night and wondered how such an animal could do such a thing. What was going on in his mind. And what was this coward trying to prove. Last week i found out my oldest is having her first baby and it hit home. School is a place of safety and content. A place of learning and people dedicated people that teach our kids. This is beyond ones logic and comprehension. This guy must have been one sick . I hope this  burns in hell. As a religious person i asked the lord WHY. Why lord so young and innocent. Sometimes my faith is questioned and this is why.  It it not fair just not fare. I am besides myself. Thank you for listening!

Don't let the act of an inhuman beast shake your faith. I'm not a religious person at all, but i can say that God had nothing to do with this. Even Satan would not condone such a vile, cowardly act against the most innocent of all prey, and this was the most cowardly of acts. This creature did not target peers. It was not a result of bullying, as many school shootings are. It was not an act of terrorism. Even the worst terrorists will not target children (they certainly won't go out of their way to protect them, either, but they won't specifically target them). We are human beings, and therefore we cannot comprehend what could cause such an inhuman act. To call the thing that committed this atrocity an animal would be an insult to animals.

I only wish the media would stop reporting that 28 people died. As far as I'm concerned 27 people died. And one beast.
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Reply #19
Cain and Abel  were, according to the Book of Genesis, two sons of Adam and Eve. Cain is described as a crop farmer and his younger brother Abel as a shepherd. Cain was the first human born and the first murderer, and Abel was the first human to die. Cain committed the first murder by killing his brother. No motive is given in the Genesis narrative for the murder. Exegesis of Genesis  by both ancient and modern commentators have typically assumed that the motive was driven by jealousy. A millenniums old explanation for Cain being capable of murder is that he may have been the offspring of a fallen angel or Satan himself, rather than being from Adam.
The lord banished Cain from paradise to mingle with the animals he created. As my religion teaches this is how evil started and continues today. Banishment to mingle with the animals was the punishment. And so the Lord Spoke
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Reply #20
Anybody who harms, deliberately in such a manner, or any of the other sick shiznit that is done now to children should be banished to the afterlife via a double tap center mass and one in the forehead to make sure.
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Reply #21
i wanted to post yesterday but needed to delay in order to stay calm but , 24 hours has passed and yet i feel the same so here goes.


Quote from: TheFoeYouKnow;404561
Hurt people hurt people.  Lets pray for those involved, and then let us try to stop making hurt people.  These monsters aren't born, they're made, and the factory is in full production mode.
i have to honestly say, this is such a disgusting comment, fine, have it your way,, if the killer was alive id just give him a big hug.


Quote from: shame302;404560
Not even 911 had this impact on me.
seriously, come on now!  check yourself


Quote from: bryan163;404604
I believe the shooter was autistic. They perceive the world very differently than we do.
i cant even begin to give a ,  another one who wants to understand something he cant change.



my thoughts, in your neiborhoods, be watchful and profile your surroundings and people because if your gut is telling you something, just like teachers say when you take a test, usually your first guess was the right one.
why am i always about 3 to 5 years ahead of the general populations way of thinking?  thats probably because ive openend my mind and then decided its pointless and go back to my gut feelings about things.  Piss on this s grave and better yet, whats all this "prayer stuff" anyway? Wanna kwow why your not getting answers?  God's saying "fool", I warned you dozens of times to watch this guy.

Lets all be sure with our senses here,  He knew to kill himself afterward, that tells me he knew the consequences of his actions.

8 children and 11 preg women died on 9/11, and yet more deaths continue today as a result of said such low importance of an issue.

this is an epic tragedy and is the time for being strong , not empethetic towards the bad guy.

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Reply #22
Quote from: jcassity;404658
i wanted to post yesterday but needed to delay in order to stay calm but , 24 hours has passed and yet i feel the same so here goes.



i have to honestly say, this is such a disgusting comment, fine, have it your way,, if the killer was alive id just give him a big hug.



seriously, come on now!  check yourself



i cant even begin to give a ,  another one who wants to understand something he cant change.



my thoughts, in your neiborhoods, be watchful and profile your surroundings and people because if your gut is telling you something, just like teachers say when you take a test, usually your first guess was the right one.
why am i always about 3 to 5 years ahead of the general populations way of thinking?  thats probably because ive openend my mind and then decided its pointless and go back to my gut feelings about things.  Piss on this s grave and better yet, whats all this "prayer stuff" anyway? Wanna kwow why your not getting answers?  God's saying "fool", I warned you dozens of times to watch this guy.

Lets all be sure with our senses here,  He knew to kill himself afterward, that tells me he knew the consequences of his actions.

8 children and 11 preg women died on 9/11, and yet more deaths continue today as a result of said such low importance of an issue.

this is an epic tragedy and is the time for being strong , not empethetic towards the bad guy.

I've got a lot of respect for you, J, but this way of thinking is the reason why things only ever seem to get worse, and never better.  We like to blame the individual, it's easier I suppose, but anyone who wants to know who is responsible needs only look in the mirror.  This tragedy is a symptom of a larger and deeper social problem in our country, one that is so ingrained that we'd rather treat the symptoms while letting the disease fester.  For this disgusting disregard for our brother, for our neighbor, our widows and orphans we suffer. 
This is not what we were made for.  This is not the way we were meant to live.

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Reply #23
Scott, I've gotta agree with Shame302. This has affected me more than 9/11 did as well. When 9/11 happened I was full of shock and sorrow. Yes, children died in that too, but they were, as the beasts responsible for that said, "Collateral damage". They were unintended victims (in fact I've always believed that Bin Laden had an "Oh shiznit" moment when those buildings fell, I doubt he meant to do that much damage - NOT that I'm making excuses or think that makes it any better). There was even a reason for those attacks. A bullshiznit reason, to be sure, and they were most certainly some of, if not the most horrific events I'd ever lived to see and hopefully will never see again, but at least the ones responsible for those attacks believed they had a reason. They believed America was responsible for their problems, so they attacked Americans (note, once again, that I am NOT rationalizing 9-11, nor do I believe that the reasons for it are valid, I'm merely stating that at least there WERE reasons stated).

This is different. In this attack, kids were not collateral damage, they were the TARGETS. This beast purposefully hunted down the most innocent of victims and shot them in cold blood. Five, six and seven year old toddlers. Innocent children that could not have possibly done anything to provoke or deserve such a horrific and senseless attack. There could not have been any reason for this attack. The beast's mother, who was the first victim, didn't even have any connections to the school. It went there as a child but nothing could have possibly happened there that would provoke it to attack children years later. There simply cannot be a reason. I feel the same shock and sorrow that I felt after 9/11, but this time there is a lot more anger mixed in. A LOT more.

I also don't buy into the horse shiznit that society is to blame for this particular atrocity. Had it been a high school or college one might try to find reasoning along the lines that the beast was driven to this by bullying. Had faculty been the intended target one might argue that it was abused there, or even that it had been having problems and not been happy with the way faculty handled (or didn't handle) it. Had it been a mall or movie theater one might say it was pissed off at society in general, for financial, societal or spiritual reasons. There are plenty of problems that happen in the world that one could, if one dug deep enough and warped facts enough, blame on society. This is not one of those things, and the last thing we need is for society to start pointing fingers and spreading blame around. I shudder to think of the political shiznitstorm that will certainly come from this, and the utter stupidity that will be sprayed from the assholes on both sides. This was the act of an individual beast, and that beast is dead. Part of me resents it for killing itself and thus depriving society vengeance, and part of me is glad that it's gone and therefore saved society the cost and trouble of dispensing with it and even worse, keeping it alive.

Society cannot take the blame for this, because we are a human society and this act was not committed by a human. Human beings want to find reasons for things, and some things just don't have a reason. I think that is what bothers me most about this...
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Reply #24
That.

When you choose in any fashion to hurt, let alone kill a child, you've given up your human rights in my eyes, and believe me, if I'm in sight of the act, I will empty a clip into the perp(s).

Not to be religious, but putting prayer back in school is not going to solve this. Banning guns will not solve this. Cops in school whether off duty or on will not stop this. They may be there a lot faster to stop, but someone who is determined will still have victims.

My thought: once you're in, you're in until last bell, someone gets sick and has to go home, or there's a UPS/FedEx/food delivery, and those should be screened before getting inside.

Of course, this won't cover games, activities, gatherings, etc, because there's no effective way to screen every person that comes through the doors. Then of course will be those who piss and moan about living in a police state.

One other thought: those who commit these horrible acts of violence..like the sgt in texas who shot up Ft Hood, instead of being imprisoned, they should be shot, hung, killed in a brutal way to send a very clear message to the other sick shags that want to do harm on a large scale that we will not accept it.

As for the pile of shiznit that murdered these kids, autistic or not, bullied or not, there had to be intent of the sickest kind, blaming it on a disease or anything else is weak. I was bullied in school, I did my fair share of it....I didn't go apeshiznit and kill anyone, neither did anyone else.

There's not a drop of sympathy, empathy or feelings of any humanity from me to anyone who ever commits such an act against people, let alone children.

I do know that shiznit like this has affected my personal life, I almost always carry my gun, and have for some time. ( I AM legal to carry)
People I encounter give me all sorts of responses from "cool man!" to "should I carry too?" (yes!) to asking my "why?"

I just reply it's everyone's right to safety, and if they are uncomfortable with it, then we'll both walk away. Look at the world around us....I am not leaving it up to chance, in the event that something happens in front of me. (Not that I EVER want that).

Sorry this is long, at the end of the day, we're still left with the incredible sadness, and the one guy that was telling about his little girl who cheered up other kids when they were sad....he's a hell of a man to be able to go out in public and say that about his lost little girl. I couldn't...
Godspeed, and may the parents and families of the victims somehow find peace in this most wretched of times for the United States of America and her friends. X
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Reply #25
On a more positive note, we have already raised a third of the funds needed for the bear drive, very quickly.

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Reply #26
good, im glad the site is up, posting at work now.  this touched a lot of us unfortunatly again.

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Reply #27
Thanks for the support. We may not be able to punish the person responsible, but at least we can show the kids and their families that we are thinking of them.

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Reply #28
is there a way to call in and make a donation?
there is a senior center interested

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Reply #29
Checking now. I'll get back to you shortly.

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