FAILED! Magic stuff in a bottle *coolant system REPAIR!

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FAILED! Magic stuff in a bottle *coolant system REPAIR!

Reply #30 – November 29, 2012, 08:46:52 AM

Yo all,
still working , just an update.

as to using this product for the Cash for Clunkers program to make an engine fail per the FED Gov't,,,, here is further information from Bar's Leak tech support.
the product was a different part number. Thanks 84Tbird,, Bars leak did appreciate the hard question i asked and they were honest per my call with them.

here is the email below

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From: Fred Mannix
To: Jcassity
Date: 26 Nov, 2012

Hey James,
Thanks for the reply and allowing us to post your HG 1 Testimonial. Much appreciated and I’ll kick this over to Jeff who does all the fun stuff on our social media sites.

As for the Q on the product for cash for clunkers program, the recommended product was PN 1100 Bar’s Leaks Head Gasket Repair. It is a product that is not compatible with antifreeze.

Have a great week.

Kind regards,

Fred Mannix | Quality Control Mgr & Product Specialist

Bar's Products, Inc.

810-603-1204 (direct)

810-603-1335 (fax)

fred.mannix@barsproducts.com

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Reply #31 – November 30, 2012, 11:03:54 AM

Thanks for the follow up. I had a hard time believing that it was used to destroy engines.

FAILED! Magic stuff in a bottle *coolant system REPAIR!

Reply #32 – November 30, 2012, 10:47:37 PM

they gave me a bottle labeled bars leak, what would you think? we used it to destroy engines. sorry you weren't there to believe it.

i believe what the government intended us to do was to run the vehicle at 2000 rpm's get it to seize, and this product wold finish it off i guess. well. the vehicles would get hot, sieze up, and then fire up 45 minutes later. i think there thought was to try and eliminate the coolant passages so the block would be useless.

i dont really understand the reasoning for any of the things that were done during cash for clunkers.

but it still put a sour taste in my mouth for bars leak.

i'm glad it seems to have worked for you though.

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Reply #33 – November 30, 2012, 11:33:56 PM

We clunked a lot of S10's at our shop, and if it had a 4.3L you could rely on it to puke its rotating parts out the bottom. Didn't see anything else that exploded the bottom end like that. There were 1 or 2 here and there, but with these motors you could expect it.
And incidentally, we put it in the crankcase. 2 qts in place of whatever oil it had in it. We didn't put sodium silicate in the cooling system. Maybe we should have, we had a didge minivan that spit a rod cap into the radiator the hard way. Made a big mess.

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Reply #34 – December 04, 2012, 12:55:32 PM

If you're trying to destroy an engine, crankcase makes more sense and that was what I heard was supposed to be done with the CFC cars. I suppose there's a few ways to wreck an engine that will get the job done.

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Reply #35 – December 04, 2012, 07:08:32 PM

i wasnt questioning you 84TBirdTurbo42, i took it to the next level asking Bars Leak to confirm thier product useage as you had described , and they did honestly say it was fact in that they indicated on that email that there "is" another pn that was used just for that.

I spoke with them today and he asked if i ever saw the 55gal drums of it yet... i said no

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Reply #36 – December 04, 2012, 07:41:15 PM

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Reply #37 – December 06, 2012, 07:58:17 PM

Quote from: jcassity;403936

i wasnt questioning you 84TBirdTurbo42, i took it to the next level asking Bars Leak to confirm thier product useage as you had described , and they did honestly say it was fact in that they indicated on that email that there "is" another pn that was used just for that.

I spoke with them today and he asked if i ever saw the 55gal drums of it yet... i said no

appreciate it, and i for some reason was having mad brain fade in one of my posts. we put the bars leak in the engine, not the cooling system. drained the oil and put this right down the fill hole.

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Reply #38 – December 08, 2012, 07:59:04 PM

today it failed, i figured i would give it a try... as i said in post 1, i dont believe in magic stuff in a bottle.
will see about getting a refund.
For a "gotta milk it for a little while" , this did the job. As far as the product claims, there is the issue in permanantly repairing.

now on to the hard part,, but i am being encouraged to go in from the fire wall.
I would much rather take the upper intake off than take out the dash.
Make a nice cover and so forth.

thoughts?

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Reply #39 – December 08, 2012, 09:04:25 PM

Scott, its really not that hard to do the dash. Especially if you do not have working ac or a center console. I can have it done in about an hour now. If you follow the coolcats write up, you could easily have it done in an afternoon with minimal effort.

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Reply #40 – December 08, 2012, 09:13:57 PM

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Reply #41 – December 08, 2012, 09:34:36 PM

I'm with 'stack and Tom. Pull the dash. That firewall is part of the structure and if you whack it open, you'll wish you hadn't. I could probably do one in my driveway in about 6 beers. 12 if I get an assistant to help handle the dash.

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Reply #42 – December 08, 2012, 11:51:58 PM

yep, thinking tomorrow is as good as any day. I think ill dive in and just do it.
I have yet to still have anyone chime in on a car with climate control, this should be an adventure.

no one took me up on my offer of 600$ to change the core .... dealer had a 4 digit quote to do it.. but oh well.

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Reply #43 – December 09, 2012, 08:14:17 AM

There are some really cool videos on Youtube from Cash For Clunkers. One of my favourites is a Jeep Cherokee with the 4.0. The thing runs for about three minutes, making God-awful sounds, then blows up (lots of smoke & steam, engine parts flying, the ground underneath catches fire)... Then it keeps running. For another three minutes or so. Those old 4.0's were tough...

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Reply #44 – December 09, 2012, 08:56:23 AM

I can change my core in about an hour to an hour and a half as well. Eric gave me a couple of tips, and it can be done. I pull the console, then drop the column, and pull the dash back. Not nearly as hard as it all sounds. Minimal fasteners to deal with. It's a job, but, it's also a "just do it and get it over with" job.