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What did these parts come from?

Purchased a Mustang as a parts car. I will be taking it's engine and trans. My trans lost 2 gears. Was going to be taking the 5 lug conversion and brakes. Began to disassemble front of Mustang today and discovered MN-12 style wheel bearing. It is separate from the rotor. The lug pattern is not MN-12. I can fit old style wheels on it. I held the rotor up to a MN-12 and lug pattern is not the same. There is about a half dozen washers under the nut that holds the knuckle to the ball joint, and larger spacer washers around the top of the knuckle where it mounts to the struts. I will not continue with the five lug swap with this butchery. I am also afraid the knuckle will lower the Bird. The Mustang sits so low I damaged the core support loading it onto a car dolly. Plan on buying a TC Wednesday for parts, so I am not concerned. I just want to know what the heck these parts came off of?????????

What did these parts come from?

Reply #1
Forgot to mention that the wheel bearing dust cap had a Ford logo stamped on it. These parts for sure came from a Ford of some sort.

What did these parts come from?

Reply #2
I'm guessing sn-95 stuff...

Post a picture if you can. I'm sure someone here will know.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #3
OK I looked it up on Coolcats. It must be sn-95 parts. I had thought they were the same as the MN-12. It said the 96 and up sn-95 spindles are for lowered cars. That scares me. even though these pads and rotors look like new, I don't want to change ride height. All those washers that was used I do not like either. With any luck I can get that wrecked TC this next week. The guy that has it is a PITA to deal with. Will not answer his cell phone or return messages.

What did these parts come from?

Reply #4
Well, with TC parts I will not get 5 lug. All I was after anyhow was more stopping power. The snowflakes will be a major upgrade as well. I currently have stamped steel wheels with hubcaps removed.

What did these parts come from?

Reply #5
What kind of setup does the Mustang have on the rear? If you wanted to sell it, I'd be interested...
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #6
Post some photos. If the outer tie rod end brackets are dropped it is an early unit. If they are straight it is late. Both have  self packed front bearing assemblies and hats for rotors. Shims are necessary because of the thickness of the upper mounting strut points.

Early spindles!!! Does yours look like this?? If your arms are straight they are Newer and dont work very well on the TC

I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

What did these parts come from?

Reply #7
Yup, then you need a bump steer kit. You should have caster camber plates with them as well.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

What did these parts come from?

Reply #8
Now that I look at what is required for 5-lug, It will not happen. I like many of the 4-lug wheels on this site. I do not want modified alignment, bump steer kit, caster camber plates, or tie rods from another year and model of car. I will still try for the TC to get the 3.55 limited slip 8.8 , snowflakes, and upgraded brakes. I see other small parts that I can recover for my car as well. Purchase price for the wrecked TC is $300. I think I can make this back with the sales of some of the parts I don't use and of course the price of s iron is pretty good right now. Don't freak guys, this thing is not salvageable. Jaws of life did quite a number on it. Roof is half-way ripped off and one of the rear quarter panels has been ripped in to.

What did these parts come from?

Reply #9
Here's food for thought if you ever go the 5 lug route;

I've got 94-95 Stang spindles, 97 Stang springs, and no caster/camber plates, no bumpsteer kit...etc.

My tie rods are flat as is the control arms..I believe that the bump steer issues become relevant when you either lower a car with the 94-95 spindles, or use 96+ spindles on a stock height Fox...this is just MY experience with the parts on my Tbird however, and are open to debate.

Also, stock TC to stock SN95 front brake setup's stopping ability..i preferred the TC setup hands down over the Stang setup I'm on now. If I could go back in time, I'd probably have my TC rotors welded in drilled in 5 lug.
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

What did these parts come from?

Reply #10
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;389173
Here's food for thought if you ever go the 5 lug route;

I've got 94-95 Stang spindles, 97 Stang springs, and no caster/camber plates, no bumpsteer kit...etc.

My tie rods are flat as is the control arms..I believe that the bump steer issues become relevant when you either lower a car with the 94-95 spindles, or use 96+ spindles on a stock height Fox...this is just MY experience with the parts on my Tbird however, and are open to debate.

Also, stock TC to stock SN95 front brake setup's stopping ability..i preferred the TC setup hands down over the Stang setup I'm on now. If I could go back in time, I'd probably have my TC rotors welded in drilled in 5 lug.
Thanks for that. Makes me think I am going in the right direction. I don't believe I will gain much going to 5 lug. IMO 5 lug is mostly needed for the tall wheels. I prefer 15s. More stopping power is a must. Don't like the way it stops now and it will only get worse when I complete the HO conversion.

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Reply #11
I have 99+ mustang spindles and a arms in my 86GT, with offset rack bushings, and my Tierods are parallel to the a arm as they should be. Car is lowered 1.5" as well.

Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;389173
Here's food for thought if you ever go the 5 lug route;

I've got 94-95 Stang spindles, 97 Stang springs, and no caster/camber plates, no bumpsteer kit...etc.

My tie rods are flat as is the control arms..I believe that the bump steer issues become relevant when you either lower a car with the 94-95 spindles, or use 96+ spindles on a stock height Fox...this is just MY experience with the parts on my Tbird however, and are open to debate.

Also, stock TC to stock SN95 front brake setup's stopping ability..i preferred the TC setup hands down over the Stang setup I'm on now. If I could go back in time, I'd probably have my TC rotors welded in drilled in 5 lug.

What did these parts come from?

Reply #12
As long as I can lock up my tires in a panic stop, I really couldn't care less. I probably would go 5 lug just for rims availability. I walked through a junkyard looking for a spare tire for my crown vic, I had abut 50 tochoose from with good tread, good air, ect.

Found one flat 4lug mini spare.

I must admit though, my wagon stops a lot quicker on stock  then any of my foxes ever could. I think I would be happy with tc brakes, but you would be better off in the long haul to go 5 lug. If your redoing everything, price is not that much different.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

What did these parts come from?

Reply #13
Of course, if you ever want to really upgrade your braking power...you're limited with the TC/Stang 5.0 stuff.
With the 94+ stuff, you can swap up to Cobra calipers and rotors...at some expense.


Quote from: bullitt4514;389187
I have 99+ mustang spindles and a arms in my 86GT, with offset rack bushings, and my Tierods are parallel to the a arm as they should be. Car is lowered 1.5" as well.

What k member are you running?
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

What did these parts come from?

Reply #14
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;389198
Of course, if you ever want to really upgrade your braking power...you're limited with the TC/Stang 5.0 stuff.
With the 94+ stuff, you can swap up to Cobra calipers and rotors...at some expense.


What k member are you running?


This is the first time for this Bird to be molested. I think Cobra parts would be a little overkill for what I am after.