Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #330 – May 12, 2012, 11:55:31 PM Haha, I was board so I FB messages his 6 or so friends that actually relpy to his nonsense on FB with awful hateful messages. I did it because I'm an asshole and he sucks. Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #331 – May 13, 2012, 03:01:23 AM Quote from: shame302;389781I suppose. You had a few options and one of them was for you to let him get away with it, which is what you chose. That shiznit is fraud. (I think you paypaled him so I'm not sure but If you mailed your payment, that's a federal offense.) It's only 50 bucks but if it were me, I'd make it the hardest 50 bucks that slime ball ever "earned". You basically gave him permission to shag you. This is unacceptable.Chris. Man up coward.Talking about fraud, try getting that pushed. If you've ever delt with the courts the way I have, it will cost you more then $50, and they won't do anything. Just tell him he should pay it. Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #332 – May 13, 2012, 11:15:20 AM I'd still make the kid miserable every way possible if i could. At least for a little while until I got bored of it. Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #333 – May 13, 2012, 11:41:11 AM He's pretty miserable all on his own. A living, breathing, walking pile of FAIL.I think it's time to flush the pile of shiznit, and clear the stench of him from this place. Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #334 – May 13, 2012, 12:01:16 PM OMG Jesus:45 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterChris who?37 minutes agoJohn BlairChris Kostiak. He's earned himself some pretty hateful reciprecation. You, you're gorgous. I don't think you need me to tell you that though.32 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterOk. So why are you writing me? I have no clue who you are, and anything that goes on with Chris and his business or attitude towards others does not effect my friendship with him.29 minutes agoJohn BlairMaybe you could let him know how much of a shiznit bag he is? Don't protect him. Integrity is important and he has none.He doesn't have a business. His mommy does. He is a child that hasn't learned responsibility or respect yet.22 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterLook I don't know who you are or what your problem is with Chris. But I do not have a problem with him. And you call him a child, yet you are writing someone you do not know. In another state, to bad mouth someone. Seems to me you are the one being childish and dis respectful. I'm not protecting him, I have no problem with him. And just because you do, does not mean you should go around trying to bash him to his friends like you are still in high school. Grow up.21 minutes agoJohn BlairAnyway, I FB messages a few of his friends including you because apparently, this (im assuming with a ton of doubt) is the only way my friend will get a fair refund from DB Chris and his (LOL Business) like he is owed. Long story short, Chris "sold" him basically damaged junk, took MONTHS to honor the purchase and tmy friend received damaged goods that were missing parts. Chris has been a ghost since then. If you're friends with this DB than you should mention it. If not, then delete him? I dunno. He sucks though.17 minutes agoJohn BlairHey, I wouldn't get involved if Chris was a stand up dude. He isn't. He's a slime ball, no ethics (for a so called business man LOL) scammer). Have a chat with him. It would be awesome if he cut the cord(from mommy) grew up and acted like a man.16 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterAgain I have nothing to do with Chris or his business. I'm not going to mention anything to him or delete him. It is not my problem, I have nothing to do with it. And again it takes a very childish person and very immature to message someones personal friends and try to start drama with someones personal life in order to upset them because you are upset. And going by your message, it wasn't even you in the mix of this. It was your friend. Go back to high school and learn how to be a decent human being. I do not know how grown adults behave where you are from, but where I am from we don't act like little school kids.14 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterAnd just a word of advice, some courts would see this as slander. Just saying.9 minutes agoJohn BlairApparently where you're from, they protect scammars. My friend, in good faith purchase (send real money) to your friend Chris for parts. Chris send him junk, well, his mommy did. they were dented up junk wheels that were MISSING hubs that Chris promised. I wouldn't be messaging his friends if he were a stand up guy but he chose to scam my friend and then disappear into the abyss, not honor a refund that he said he sent (never received). It would be slandor if it wasn't true darlin but Chris has awful "business" ethics. Your replies complete the math on this if this is how you treat people where your from. Just saying.a few seconds agoJohn BlairI'm sorry to bother his friends with such nonsense, but his poor ethics warrant this as no other means aside from legal action warrant this sort of contact. I'd probably just forward this sort of thing to him.Write a reply...Haha.....awe Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #335 – May 13, 2012, 12:23:15 PM 55 minutes agoJohn BlairMaybe you could let him know how much of a shiznit bag he is? Don't protect him. Integrity is important and he has none.He doesn't have a business. His mommy does. He is a child that hasn't learned responsibility or respect yet.48 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterLook I don't know who you are or what your problem is with Chris. But I do not have a problem with him. And you call him a child, yet you are writing someone you do not know. In another state, to bad mouth someone. Seems to me you are the one being childish and dis respectful. I'm not protecting him, I have no problem with him. And just because you do, does not mean you should go around trying to bash him to his friends like you are still in high school. Grow up.47 minutes agoJohn BlairAnyway, I FB messages a few of his friends including you because apparently, this (im assuming with a ton of doubt) is the only way my friend will get a fair refund from DB Chris and his (LOL Business) like he is owed. Long story short, Chris "sold" him basically damaged junk, took MONTHS to honor the purchase and tmy friend received damaged goods that were missing parts. Chris has been a ghost since then. If you're friends with this DB than you should mention it. If not, then delete him? I dunno. He sucks though.43 minutes agoJohn BlairHey, I wouldn't get involved if Chris was a stand up dude. He isn't. He's a slime ball, no ethics (for a so called business man LOL) scammer). Have a chat with him. It would be awesome if he cut the cord(from mommy) grew up and acted like a man.42 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterAgain I have nothing to do with Chris or his business. I'm not going to mention anything to him or delete him. It is not my problem, I have nothing to do with it. And again it takes a very childish person and very immature to message someones personal friends and try to start drama with someones personal life in order to upset them because you are upset. And going by your message, it wasn't even you in the mix of this. It was your friend. Go back to high school and learn how to be a decent human being. I do not know how grown adults behave where you are from, but where I am from we don't act like little school kids.40 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterAnd just a word of advice, some courts would see this as slander. Just saying.35 minutes agoJohn BlairApparently where you're from, they protect scammars. My friend, in good faith purchase (send real money) to your friend Chris for parts. Chris send him junk, well, his mommy did. they were dented up junk wheels that were MISSING hubs that Chris promised. I wouldn't be messaging his friends if he were a stand up guy but he chose to scam my friend and then disappear into the abyss, not honor a refund that he said he sent (never received). It would be slandor if it wasn't true darlin but Chris has awful "business" ethics. Your replies complete the math on this if this is how you treat people where your from. Just saying.26 minutes agoJohn BlairI'm sorry to bother his friends with such nonsense, but his poor ethics warrant this as no other means aside from legal action warrant this sort of contact. I'd probably just forward this sort of thing to him.24 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterNo, Chris has never scammed me. I am in no way at all involved in this. So writing to me was pointless, immature and is not going to get you any where. YOU were not involved in this "scam" so why you are writing to me again, I have no idea. And this will be the last time I tell you, what Chris does with his business has nothing to do with me. I am in another state, I know nothing about it all. So please, grow up and leave me alone. You are trying to hurt him by getting his friends to drop him over a business deal that we (at least I) had no part in. So explaining all of this to me is just a huge waste of your time. And no my replies are simply, "Why the hell are you writing me?". I'm not going to turn my back on a friend because you say I should. I'm not going to send him anything or tell him anything. It's not my place nor my business to deal with. So seriously, stop. You are just coming off as a douchebag.a few seconds agoJohn BlairOf course he hasn't scammed you, he knows you. Writing you is certainly immature. Yes, i agree, but Chris has left no other option other than legal avenues and nobody wants to be involved with layers. The only thing worse than throwing your money to layers would be sending your hard earned money to Chris only to be scammed out of it. I'm writing you simply because my friend, who is MUCH friendlier than me, won't go the extra mile to make things right. He will wright off the money he sent Chris because he is a much better person than I. I take huge offense at my friends kindness being taken advantage of like your friend Chris has. I honestly don't want his friends to drop him. Friends are important. They help get you through those hard time like these (unless you aren't willing to help him do the right thing) Look at it from our POV and figure it out. Other than involving lawyers over such a small amount of money, what choice do we have? I'm not trying to hurt him in any way. I just want him to man up and do the right thing. I was hoping one of his friends could help him with this as no other means of contact has worked. I care not weather or not you turn your back on this slime ball, only weather or not he cares enough for you and the rest of humanity weather or not he does the right thing. I'm sorry you think I'm coming off as a douche when your friend Chris is quite obviously the DB. Maybe you have a crush on him or something. Either way, he really needs to man up. Stop playing around with children and find yourself a man.[/LIST] Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #336 – May 13, 2012, 12:24:26 PM Awe. I'm afraid I'm the DB now. Owes well. And yes, I'm aware of the grammatical errors. I'm betting she isn't though. Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #337 – May 13, 2012, 12:52:13 PM MessagesActionsShamra Danelle Websterabout an hour agoShamra Danelle WebsterChris who?about an hour agoJohn BlairChris Kostiak. He's earned himself some pretty hateful reciprecation. You, you're gorgous. I don't think you need me to tell you that hough.about an hour agoShamra Danelle WebsterOk. So why are you writing me? I have no clue who you are, and anything that goes on with Chris and his business or attitude towards others does not effect my friendship with him.about an hour agoJohn BlairMaybe you could let him know how much of a shiznit bag he is? Don't protect him. Integrity is important and he has none.He doesn't have a business. His mommy does. He is a child that hasn't learned responsibility or respect yet.about an hour agoShamra Danelle WebsterLook I don't know who you are or what your problem is with Chris. But I do not have a problem with him. And you call him a child, yet you are writing someone you do not know. In another state, to bad mouth someone. Seems to me you are the one being childish and dis respectful. I'm not protecting him, I have no problem with him. And just because you do, does not mean you should go around trying to bash him to his friends like you are still in high school. Grow up.about an hour agoJohn BlairAnyway, I FB messages a few of his friends including you because apparently, this (im assuming with a ton of doubt) is the only way my friend will get a fair refund from DB Chris and his (LOL Business) like he is owed. Long story short, Chris "sold" him basically damaged junk, took MONTHS to honor the purchase and tmy friend received damaged goods that were missing parts. Chris has been a ghost since then. If you're friends with this DB than you should mention it. If not, then delete him? I dunno. He sucks though.about an hour agoJohn BlairHey, I wouldn't get involved if Chris was a stand up dude. He isn't. He's a slime ball, no ethics (for a so called business man LOL) scammer). Have a chat with him. It would be awesome if he cut the cord(from mommy) grew up and acted like a man.about an hour agoShamra Danelle WebsterAgain I have nothing to do with Chris or his business. I'm not going to mention anything to him or delete him. It is not my problem, I have nothing to do with it. And again it takes a very childish person and very immature to message someones personal friends and try to start drama with someones personal life in order to upset them because you are upset. And going by your message, it wasn't even you in the mix of this. It was your friend. Go back to high school and learn how to be a decent human being. I do not know how grown adults behave where you are from, but where I am from we don't act like little school kids.about an hour agoShamra Danelle WebsterAnd just a word of advice, some courts would see this as slander. Just saying.about an hour agoJohn BlairApparently where you're from, they protect scammars. My friend, in good faith purchase (send real money) to your friend Chris for parts. Chris send him junk, well, his mommy did. they were dented up junk wheels that were MISSING hubs that Chris promised. I wouldn't be messaging his friends if he were a stand up guy but he chose to scam my friend and then disappear into the abyss, not honor a refund that he said he sent (never received). It would be slandor if it wasn't true darlin but Chris has awful "business" ethics. Your replies complete the math on this if this is how you treat people where your from. Just saying.56 minutes agoJohn BlairI'm sorry to bother his friends with such nonsense, but his poor ethics warrant this as no other means aside from legal action warrant this sort of contact. I'd probably just forward this sort of thing to him.54 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterNo, Chris has never scammed me. I am in no way at all involved in this. So writing to me was pointless, immature and is not going to get you any where. YOU were not involved in this "scam" so why you are writing to me again, I have no idea. And this will be the last time I tell you, what Chris does with his business has nothing to do with me. I am in another state, I know nothing about it all. So please, grow up and leave me alone. You are trying to hurt him by getting his friends to drop him over a business deal that we (at least I) had no part in. So explaining all of this to me is just a huge waste of your time. And no my replies are simply, "Why the hell are you writing me?". I'm not going to turn my back on a friend because you say I should. I'm not going to send him anything or tell him anything. It's not my place nor my business to deal with. So seriously, stop. You are just coming off as a douchebag.30 minutes agoJohn BlairOf course he hasn't scammed you, he knows you. Writing you is certainly immature. Yes, i agree, but Chris has left no other option other than legal avenues and nobody wants to be involved with layers. The only thing worse than throwing your money to layers would be sending your hard earned money to Chris only to be scammed out of it. I'm writing you simply because my friend, who is MUCH friendlier than me, won't go the extra mile to make things right. He will wright off the money he sent Chris because he is a much better person than I. I take huge offense at my friends kindness being taken advantage of like your friend Chris has. I honestly don't want his friends to drop him. Friends are important. They help get you through those hard time like these (unless you aren't willing to help him do the right thing) Look at it from our POV and figure it out. Other than involving lawyers over such a small amount of money, what choice do we have? I'm not trying to hurt him in any way. I just want him to man up and do the right thing. I was hoping one of his friends could help him with this as no other means of contact has worked. I care not weather or not you turn your back on this slime ball, only weather or not he cares enough for you and the rest of humanity weather or not he does the right thing. I'm sorry you think I'm coming off as a douche when your friend Chris is quite obviously the DB. Maybe you have a crush on him or something. Either way, he really needs to man up. Stop playing around with children and find yourself a man.26 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterYou have no idea what you are talking about. If it is such a small amount of money that lawyers would be a waste of money, maybe your friend has the right idea. I do not know. But you really need to stop trying to push me into doing what you want. You want to get him to give the money back, you contact him. You talk to him. Not me. I have nothing to do with it. This will be the last response you get. And newsflash, this isn't 1930, I don't need to find a man or "Play around with children". Nice to see girls from up north are so easily manipulated into bending to a man's will. GROW UP!2 minutes agoJohn Blair"You have no idea what you are talking about." Wait, yes I do. You're the one that's new to all of this. Ask Chris. He will fill you in. I don't care HOW small the amount is. Theft and misconception/dishonesty is STILL THEFT and dishonesty lady. You missed it. It's been months, sadly enough, and this slime ball Chris won't do the right thing. WHY? I wouldn't be bothering his friends if he had. He's been talked too. The last resort is his friends and then legal action. I'm not trying to push you into doing what I want pretty lady. You're your own person. I'm trying to nudge you into doing what the right thing is which is apparently NOT the natural thing for you? Woman up here don't need a man to tell them what to do. They figure it out all on their own just like the men have too. God bless. Seriously, I really just want you to tell Chis*(because he ignores all other contact) he needs to fix the situation. That's all this is about. I'm disappointed that anyone at all has to get involved in HIS situation but HE made it so. It's petty and it's embarrassing but he really needs to fix it. Chris has left NO other avenue other than asking his friends or consulting lawyers (which is expensive for everybody). This should be obvious to him but he avoids. I'm not sure why."Just found fish bones in our tuna fish There goes my appetite. Called them and of course they are closed for the weekend already. Never eating tuna fish again! StarKist, get your act together, that is just wrong. My 4 year old daughter was eating that!" You expect costumer service from a company like Starkist who does huge volumes of product but forgive Chris for the simple, tiny bit of lousy one time services Chris offers. Seems fair.[/LIST] Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #338 – May 13, 2012, 01:44:19 PM UGH. Congrats on being conceptually average at best. Ugh America will fail because of low-life's like this. Gimme gimme gimme ugh it's not may fault. Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #339 – May 13, 2012, 03:21:47 PM I'd FB every one of his phony 300+ FB friends but I don't care enough too. I only hit the last 30 or so that actually replied to hid nonsense FB posts or FB requests. I'm guessing none of them give a rats ass about what he does either being the quality individual he (or they are) is. Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #340 – May 13, 2012, 03:38:00 PM 3 hours agoShamra Danelle WebsterYou have no idea what you are talking about. If it is such a small amount of money that lawyers would be a waste of money, maybe your friend has the right idea. I do not know. But you really need to stop trying to push me into doing what you want. You want to get him to give the money back, you contact him. You talk to him. Not me. I have nothing to do with it. This will be the last response you get. And newsflash, this isn't 1930, I don't need to find a man or "Play around with children". Nice to see girls from up north are so easily manipulated into bending to a man's will. GROW UP!2 hours agoJohn Blair"You have no idea what you are talking about." Wait, yes I do. You're the one that's new to all of this. Ask Chris. He will fill you in. I don't care HOW small the amount is. Theft and misconception/dishonesty is STILL THEFT and dishonesty lady. You missed it. It's been months, sadly enough, and this slime ball Chris won't do the right thing. WHY? I wouldn't be bothering his friends if he had. He's been talked too. The last resort is his friends and then legal action. I'm not trying to push you into doing what I want pretty lady. You're your own person. I'm trying to nudge you into doing what the right thing is which is apparently NOT the natural thing for you? Woman up here don't need a man to tell them what to do. They figure it out all on their own just like the men have too. God bless. Seriously, I really just want you to tell Chis*(because he ignores all other contact) he needs to fix the situation. That's all this is about. I'm disappointed that anyone at all has to get involved in HIS situation but HE made it so. It's petty and it's embarrassing but he really needs to fix it. Chris has left NO other avenue other than asking his friends or consulting lawyers (which is expensive for everybody). This should be obvious to him but he avoids. I'm not sure why.about an hour agoJohn Blair"Just found fish bones in our tuna fish There goes my appetite. Called them and of course they are closed for the weekend already. Never eating tuna fish again! StarKist, get your act together, that is just wrong. My 4 year old daughter was eating that!" You expect costumer service from a company like Starkist who does huge volumes of product but forgive Chris for the simple, tiny bit of lousy one time services Chris offers. Seems fair.49 minutes agoJohn BlairFor the record, I probably wouldn't have asked you at all for your help if you were not one of the only like four people to post on this sspooge bags face book posts. If I were you I'd try not to associate myself wtgh the likes of Chris Kostiak. I guess that depends all on the regard you hold yourself in.14 minutes agoShamra Danelle WebsterLook I told you to leave me alone. That is your friends problem with Chris not mine. Have a nice day, I plan on spending the rest of the day with my children. It is Mother's Day after all. Please, get a life.about a minute agoJohn BlairHey, if you like associating yourself with such a low-life, that's okay with me, I don't actually care. Like you, I have better things to do but Unlike you, i value and qualify the people I associate myself with. Enjoy the bottom rung Pure Romance consultant and Chris Kostiak associate. That guy is a gem. You should marry him. I should maybe apologize for caring about my friends getting screwed and then ignored by your endearing douche bag friend Chris. Keep the integrity though. It's an endearing trait. Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #342 – May 13, 2012, 06:33:09 PM Quote from: shame302;389834i'm so going to hell. lol Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #343 – May 13, 2012, 07:24:56 PM Quote from: That person from FBAnd just a word of advice, some courts would see this as slander. Just saying.I don't think so, Tim.....Quotedefamation: Any intentional false communication, either written or spoken, that harms a person's reputation; decreases the respect, regard, or confidence in which a person is held; or induces disparaging, hostile, or disagreeable opinions or feelings against a person.Libel and Slander: Two torts that involve the communication of false information about a person, a group, or an entity such as a corporation. Libel is any Defamation that can be seen, such as a writing, printing, effigy, movie, or statue. Slander is any defamation that is spoken and heard.Collectively known as defamation, libel and slander are civil wrongs that harm a reputation; decrease respect, regard, or confidence; or induce disparaging, hostile, or disagreeable opinions or feelings against an individual or entity. The injury to one's good name or reputation is affected through written or spoken words or visual images. The laws governing these torts are identical.To recover in a libel or slander suit, the plaintiff must show evidence of four elements: that the defendant conveyed a defamatory message; that the material was published, meaning that it was conveyed to someone other than the plaintiff; that the plaintiff could be identified as the person referred to in the defamatory material; and that the plaintiff suffered some injury to his or her reputation as a result of the communication.To prove that the material was defamatory, the plaintiff must show that at least one other person who saw or heard it understood it as having defamatory meaning. It is necessary to show not that all who heard or read the statement understood it to be defamatory, but only that one person other than the plaintiff did so. Therefore, even if the defendant contends that the communication was a joke, if one person other than the plaintiff took it seriously, the communication is considered defamatory.Defamatory matter is published when it is communicated to someone other than the plaintiff. This can be done in several different ways. The defendant might loudly accuse the plaintiff of something in a public place where others are present, or make defamatory statements about the plaintiff in a newsletter or an on-line bulletin board. The defamation need not be printed or distributed. However, if the defendant does not intend it to be conveyed to anyone other than the plaintiff, and conveys it in a manner that ordinarily would prevent others from seeing or hearing it, the requirement of publication has not been satisfied even if a third party inadvertently overhears or witnesses the communication. Simply summed up if you know it to be true, or believe it to be true with evidence showing why then it aint slander..... Quote Selected
Shadow....UPDATE .. Reply #344 – May 13, 2012, 08:12:53 PM Quote from: jangus;389737Way to be ignorant. Not everyone want's to rock the out of style crew cut like you Tom. JANGUS are you still pissed at me because you buddy claims he beat a turbo Porsche with a TC. And you agreed he did??? That is IGNORANCE AT IT'S best. Quote Selected
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