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A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #75
Quote from: thunderjet302;391208
Any guess as to how much power it should put out at the flywheel? I'm guessing 550+?

 
The target is north of that at the wheels.  I was in the mid 480's with the prevous combo.

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Reply #76
I have seen this car in person,it is even more impressive than in the pics!!!
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

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Reply #77
Quote from: 86T-bird;391241
The target is north of that at the wheels.  I was in the mid 480's with the prevous combo.

So 550+ at the wheels?  that's going to be fast :).
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #78
Yeah and I think my HO is an impressive upgrade over stock. :punchballs:
'88 'bird, 10.9:1 306 w/TFS top end, forged rods/pistons, T-5 swap & bunch of other stuff, 1-family owned, had it since ‘98, 5.0tbrd88 on Instagram and YouTube

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Reply #79
did you use the stainless brake hose for the front flex lines as well?  Im going to be putting stainless hoses on my car, and didnt know If I had to use the rubber flex lines...wich would mean going on summit and trying to find the right  adapter fitting...
1988 Cougar LS - Cinnabar/Rose Quartz Metallic two tone - 3.8 V6 - Rescue
1988 Cougar LS - Cinnabar/Rose Quartz Metallic two tone - 5.0 V8 - Survivor

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Reply #80
A common question on the board is what exhaust system (with modification) will fit on our cars.  With the expectation of moving to a 3" system with full tail pipes I did a bit of research to locate a system which I felt offered the best chance to fit.  The space between the right rear tire and the fuel tank is pretty tight.

Here is a link to the system I chose: http://www.foxbodyworld.com/mac-cat-back-exhaust-kit-3-inch-gt-1987-1993/p/CBM8/ (I'm not endorsing Foxbodyworld.com, they just had a great pic of what I started with)

The Mac system offers a ball & socket connection for the tail pipe after the axle (most tails are solid from the ler connection all the way back), which offers a great deal of flexibility to locate the tails away from the tires.

Additional information on my combo:  The headers are Hooker 6227-1.  I was unable to locate an OTS mid-pipe to mate with them, so one had to be fabricated.  Turns out that wasn't too difficult. I ordered some universal exhaust pieces from Summit.  The h-pipe kit:http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-642030/ , header collector extensions: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HED-18701/ and (2) stainless stepped clamps: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-692300/

In addition to these, I picked up (6) 3" ID sleeves from O'Rielly's to help provide an easy way to hold everything together, as I mocked up the system,

The prospect of cutting a new cat back exhaust system can be a little daunting!  In an attempt to keep the cuts straight, I used a 14" metal chop saw and reciprocating saw. 

To my relief, the mock up went really smooth.  The header collector extensions had great adjustability and lined up well.  The right tube was shortened about 2 1/2", the H-pipe slid into place (the H portion needed to be trimmed).

I had hoped to purchase a 3" "ball" to mate to the Mac flow pipes, but was unable to locate any with a two bolt .  This necessitated cutting the socket end off the flow pipes and adding an extension to meet up with the H-pipe.  The ball and socket at the ler allowed the flow tubes to line up with the H-pipe, requiring a 7" section on the right and 9" on the left. 

I wanted the ability to disconnect the H-pipe from the flow tubes, so I used the stepped stainless clamps.

Extending the tail pipes required some cutting and piecing.  Though the hangers could have been moved, I chose to work around their location and fit piping around them.

Once I was happy with how everything was placed, I called my friend Jordan.  He came out with his welder, tacked everything together, we pulled the pieces off the car and he welded it all up. 

I shot it with high temp header paint, in an attempt to keep the welds from rusting. 

Here are shots after paint.  You can see where the pipes were extended.  We used two of the sleeves on the flow tubes to simplify tacking it together, the rest of the connections were butt welded. 

I had hoped to add electric cut outs: unfortunately, there is no room with this configuration.

I'll get additional pics of it in place.  So far, I'm pleased with the fitment (have to wait and see if it rattles and bangs going down the road!)  It's much closer to the body than the previous 2 1/2 system, greatly enhancing ground clearance.  Part of it may be the raised port on the Canfield heads, pulling the header up higher.

A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #81
Those are some seriously nice "boom tubes".  Nice fab work and looks like your buddy is one hell of a welder too!
'88 'bird, 10.9:1 306 w/TFS top end, forged rods/pistons, T-5 swap & bunch of other stuff, 1-family owned, had it since ‘98, 5.0tbrd88 on Instagram and YouTube

A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #82
Thanks Chris!

Though everything fit fine around the tank during mock up, I had to shift the tank around and bend the seams up get everything to clear. 

Taking close pics under the car don't turn out very well.  Here are few shots of the tail pipes.

It is close to the tank and tires, but it fits!  Glad to have this part behind me!

On to finishing up the wiring, then the engine comes back out to fix the oil leak...

A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #83
Busy busy! Looks good too.

I have collected all the parts to fix mine, but havent touched it since I drove it off the rollback...
gumby - beauty may fade, but stupid is forever!

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Reply #84
Quote from: gumby;392488

I have collected all the parts to fix mine, but havent touched it since I drove it off the rollback...

 
That's pretty funny!  You need another autocross event to ge you motivated.

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Reply #85
Didn't you know that 3" exhaust is WAY too big? even with a supercharger or turbo, you are going to loose lots of low end. And stepped headers, waste of time.

All joking aside, I could see myself doing a setup similar to this, minus the a4 block. Those can get pricey.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
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Reply #86
86 is making some pretty big power....Im sure the 3" will be fine.

Travis

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Reply #87
Quote from: Haystack;392506
Didn't you know that 3" exhaust is WAY too big? even with a supercharger or turbo, you are going to loose lots of low end. And stepped headers, waste of time.

All joking aside, I could see myself doing a setup similar to this, minus the a4 block. Those can get pricey.

 
I've heard big heads, intake and exhaust on a little motor can cause a loss of low end torque and I've been loosing a lot of sleep over it!  LOL.  I was wondering if I loose it, can it be found again?

I felt an A4 or comparable block was needed to help minimize the need to build another short block.  The thought of doing a third one was uncomfortable!

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Reply #88
Looks great :). Better than my 2.5" system.

Just wondering but is your fuel tank still stock? I have a problem with a fuel slosh induced stall if I hammer it from a stop with less than 1/2 tank. I can only imagine it's worse for you ;).
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage!

Reply #89
Looking good Mark,  3" is on my list but not till phase 2 which is looking like some time in 2016 lol.. Still trying to muddle my way thru stage 1
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