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New 3.7 swap

Reply #15
Quote from: Shadow;384232
with all the mpg talk around here lately, it's starting to sound like broncozone :giggle:

You don't modify a toy/fun car for mileage you do it to go fast. I always hear people complaining "my blah blah only gets 15 mpg" when they only drive it to car shows. Who cares its a fun car. With how little it gets driven you can afford the gas.

If you want good mileage get an economy car (I did). It's really hard to get good mileage with a fast car. The Mustang averages about 23 in a mix of heavy city traffic and highway. The Focus gets about 26 in heavy city traffic and above 30 mpg in the same mix. Yeah its slower but I only have to fill it every two weeks. You can't have your cake and eat it too ;).
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #16
Quote from: sarjxxx;384343
you could get much closer to 400rwhp in a 3.8 for $3k. Dont get me started again :p

ok, 400rwhp.. so the 3.8 wins! lol (feels weird saying that lol)

Quote from: thunderjet302;384345
You don't modify a toy/fun car for mileage you do it to go fast. I always hear people complaining "my blah blah only gets 15 mpg" when they only drive it to car shows. Who cares its a fun car. With how little it gets driven you can afford the gas.

If you want good mileage get an economy car (I did). It's really hard to get good mileage with a fast car. The Mustang averages about 23 in a mix of heavy city traffic and highway. The Focus gets about 26 in heavy city traffic and above 30 mpg in the same mix. Yeah its slower but I only have to fill it every two weeks. You can't have your cake and eat it too ;).

oh thank you thank you thank you!!! words spoken from heaven!

of course, i usually get the counter statement of 'well i can't afford another car'.. to which i say 'than you shouldn't be modifying the 1 you have now..' some people are just super thick headed, though.. :facepalm:
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Reply #17
I like the newer engines.  They're just not within most hot rodder's budgets right now.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #18
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Plus I'm pretty sure a 3.7+trans is probably going to be pretty expensive. It's not like you can go to the local pick a part and find a 2011 or 2012 Mustang sitting in the yard.

Give it a year or 2....
On a related note, isn't the same transmission mated to the new 5.0?  I'm sure you could find one on the cheap on Modular Fords or S197forum if that's the case.  You can find low mileage 5r55s transmissions for a 4.6 for around $300 bucks.  Put in a hardened input shaft and a converter and those are good to 700 HP with a trans cooler.  It's been done a few times.
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #19
I am def not a fan of how the 3.8s sound. The 3.7 can be made fast and get good gas mileage while doing so Thunderjet302. Id bet Horsepower per miles a gallon, the new 3.7 would beat a 3.8.  Im already keeping my eyes on the new V6 mustangs in junk yards but right now they are too pricey but thats okay because im a student paying for college. But a can promise you that id be the only turbocoupe with a 3.7 and that would be pretty cool. Atleast in my eyes.
1987 turbo coupe 5speed: Boport stage 3 head/2.5 cam , Precision stage 3 50trim .63 turbo, Tial 38mm wastegate, Jangus gutted/ported intake manifolds, 60mm tb, Jangus open dumptube, Jangus 3" elbow, Perrin boost controller,Esslinger adjustable cam pulley, Esslinger small crank pulley, stinger FMI, RFL BOV, Spec stage 3 clutch, B&M short throw, 140 speedo, Walbo 255lph, BBK fpr, 3G alternator, ARP studs.  Be faster... :poke:

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Reply #20
Oh and thunderjet302, You can have major HP and get good gas mileage! The Mclaren MP4-12C would know making almost 600hp and getting up to 30mpg! BAM!! there is your friggin cake!!:ies:
1987 turbo coupe 5speed: Boport stage 3 head/2.5 cam , Precision stage 3 50trim .63 turbo, Tial 38mm wastegate, Jangus gutted/ported intake manifolds, 60mm tb, Jangus open dumptube, Jangus 3" elbow, Perrin boost controller,Esslinger adjustable cam pulley, Esslinger small crank pulley, stinger FMI, RFL BOV, Spec stage 3 clutch, B&M short throw, 140 speedo, Walbo 255lph, BBK fpr, 3G alternator, ARP studs.  Be faster... :poke:

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Reply #21
Quote from: SR71blackbird;384406
Oh and thunderjet302, You can have major HP and get good gas mileage! The Mclaren MP4-12C would know making almost 600hp and getting up to 30mpg! BAM!! there is your friggin cake!!:ies:

:barf: i see no cake there, just an ugly sports car
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

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Reply #22
Dang man, i think that thing looks sweet!
1987 turbo coupe 5speed: Boport stage 3 head/2.5 cam , Precision stage 3 50trim .63 turbo, Tial 38mm wastegate, Jangus gutted/ported intake manifolds, 60mm tb, Jangus open dumptube, Jangus 3" elbow, Perrin boost controller,Esslinger adjustable cam pulley, Esslinger small crank pulley, stinger FMI, RFL BOV, Spec stage 3 clutch, B&M short throw, 140 speedo, Walbo 255lph, BBK fpr, 3G alternator, ARP studs.  Be faster... :poke:

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Reply #23
I was going to say something, but I don't want to offend and we are all freinds here. Hp and mileage go together, to a point. Technology is a good thing.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
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Reply #24
no offense taken.. but i like my old school stuff! technology can bite my butt :p

..with the exception of F.A.S.T. and megasquirt, of course :)
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

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Reply #25
Oh you are forgetting PIMP from stinger!!
1987 turbo coupe 5speed: Boport stage 3 head/2.5 cam , Precision stage 3 50trim .63 turbo, Tial 38mm wastegate, Jangus gutted/ported intake manifolds, 60mm tb, Jangus open dumptube, Jangus 3" elbow, Perrin boost controller,Esslinger adjustable cam pulley, Esslinger small crank pulley, stinger FMI, RFL BOV, Spec stage 3 clutch, B&M short throw, 140 speedo, Walbo 255lph, BBK fpr, 3G alternator, ARP studs.  Be faster... :poke:

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Reply #26
screw that.. that involves a waiting list lol
ShadowMSC.com < < Still Under Construction

R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

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Reply #27
Yeah it has a waiting list, but it seems way easier
1987 turbo coupe 5speed: Boport stage 3 head/2.5 cam , Precision stage 3 50trim .63 turbo, Tial 38mm wastegate, Jangus gutted/ported intake manifolds, 60mm tb, Jangus open dumptube, Jangus 3" elbow, Perrin boost controller,Esslinger adjustable cam pulley, Esslinger small crank pulley, stinger FMI, RFL BOV, Spec stage 3 clutch, B&M short throw, 140 speedo, Walbo 255lph, BBK fpr, 3G alternator, ARP studs.  Be faster... :poke:

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Reply #28
when things are 'easy,' i make them complicated :(
ShadowMSC.com < < Still Under Construction

R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

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Reply #29
lol i guess that could be a problem then : )
1987 turbo coupe 5speed: Boport stage 3 head/2.5 cam , Precision stage 3 50trim .63 turbo, Tial 38mm wastegate, Jangus gutted/ported intake manifolds, 60mm tb, Jangus open dumptube, Jangus 3" elbow, Perrin boost controller,Esslinger adjustable cam pulley, Esslinger small crank pulley, stinger FMI, RFL BOV, Spec stage 3 clutch, B&M short throw, 140 speedo, Walbo 255lph, BBK fpr, 3G alternator, ARP studs.  Be faster... :poke: