Door Windows

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Door Windows

May 21, 2005, 05:50:06 PM

A couple weeks ago one of the two clips on the bottom of my driver's side window came loose causing the window to slant forward when put down. Today when I went to open the window, the entire window popped out of the clips and no longer rolls down without help (pushing down to keep it in the two clips). Now I can see how these clips help push the window up, but pulling the window down doesn't seem feasible with only them. Is there a third part attached to the window glass that helps the window roll down? The clips were only "held on"(?) by silicone so I doubt they'd have enough strength to pull the window down since it sits firmly in place (its even fairly difficult to slide up/down by hand). Any ideas on how to fix this? Being that its warming up and my a/c switch is bad (along with probably a seized compressor since its been dead so long), I'm going to be needing a working window.

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Reply #1 – May 21, 2005, 11:11:53 PM

Jb weld.
Take out the window and remove all the old glue from the window and clips.
Sand the clips and glass with 180grit to ruff them up.
Smear the jb on the clips and glass,reinstall the clip on the window.
Install the window in the car and put the window up for 2 days.
After that it's indistructible,have been using it that way for 2 months and all is good.
It's much stronger than any glue ford would have used.

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Reply #2 – May 21, 2005, 11:21:50 PM

Good quality duct tape (Polyken #223 or #224, not the cheap stuff) has served me well for several years in that application.

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Reply #3 – May 22, 2005, 09:37:31 AM

Aquarium Glass silicone (got it from a pet store!) It adheres well to the plastic too.

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Reply #4 – May 22, 2005, 11:26:31 AM

your tracks need greased up

then you can silicone them back. that aquarium glue isnt a bad idea though.

my wifes old car, kia sportage,, had the same set up as us but the clips also had bolts that passed through the window. makes me wonder bout doing this.

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Reply #5 – May 22, 2005, 11:46:47 AM

So it IS only clips...hmmm. Any easy way to grease the tracks? Just put the window down and try to get some in the side tracks? If only silicone works (which was on there from Ford), then it must be either that or crud in the tracks that needs to be cleaned out

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Reply #6 – May 23, 2005, 12:44:46 AM

bingo

and also check to see if your track is bent or smooshed together n e where.

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Reply #7 – May 23, 2005, 01:24:41 AM

any suggestions on grease type? The stuff I used seemed to work earlier but once I put the door panel back on and a few hours later, its tilting forward again when rolled down. Loading it up with more grease hasn't fixed it so I'm guessing there's something screwed up with the track although I can't see where. Kinda annoying that I have to take the panel off again

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Reply #8 – May 23, 2005, 09:02:57 AM

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So it IS only clips...hmmm.

Not so simple. The glass should be bonded to the clips.
The clips are bolted to the upper (metal) track.
The scissor-action winder moves the track up and down.
The bottom (metal) track bolts to the door, and keeps the linkage straight.
The end (felt-lined) channels guide and protect the glass.

If the clips become unbonded, the glass can tilt and possibly break.

If the felt channels are too tight, twisted or pinched, you may apply so much force to the winder trying to roll the window down that the clips are pulled off the glass.

If the metal tracks are rusty or sticky, it will be harder to roll the window up & down, but it shouldn't affect the clips at all.

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Reply #9 – May 24, 2005, 12:05:42 AM

but how would the silicone that Ford used bond the clips to the window? Silicone isn't that strong and I just peeled it off the glass (easily) before applying more. I'll jbweld if it'll work, but it seems like the window should slide easily in the tracks and only be supported by the plastic clips. I just don't know why the window started doing this out of the blue and grease isn't helping much

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Reply #10 – May 24, 2005, 07:25:27 AM

Jb weld does work for mine and that stuff is super strong.

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Reply #11 – July 10, 2005, 09:04:22 PM

Okay, so jbweld worked well for about a month...and just today the window popped off the clip again. I really don't know whats wrong. Everything appears straight and moves smoothly, yet it still has a problem. I loaded the thing down with more than enough jbweld (actually thought I used too much), yet the window isn't working properly again. I'm running out of ideas

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Reply #12 – July 10, 2005, 09:07:40 PM

Quote from: MasterBlaster

The scissor-action winder moves the track up and down.

The window pops out of the clip when the "scissor" is completely closed, before it begind to open up again (halfway down). Its stays in the wide position for a split second and this is where the window decides to pop off.

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Reply #13 – July 12, 2005, 10:08:00 PM

on mine, the track at the front edge of the door was warpedd out of shape, I replaced with one out of my parts car, works fine now...
might see if that helps ya...

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Reply #14 – July 12, 2005, 11:02:40 PM

Front edge? Above the speaker? The one that extends the entire length of the door or the shorter one to the side of the door speakers? Mine appear to be straight, but its hard to tell without taking it out (which looks difficult)