ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #45 – August 03, 2010, 08:24:11 PM I've seen the article with my own eyes, and as many people have pointed out, Ford already had a car on which to place those SHO badges. And while SHO enthusiasts may claim that they made the SHO badges reappear, I would bet they had little, if anything at all, to do with the actual Ecoboost Taurus being built. As somebody pointed out, the only thing SHO enthusiasts did was convince Ford to call the car the SHO instead of the Ecoboost Taurus. And even still, I wouldn't put to much weight into that - it was probably Ford's intention all along, but they played up to the SHO enthusiasts so they could say "We listened to the enthusiasts" in their marketing.And the fact that there are many more Mustangs out there than Birds only proves why the Mustang still exists and the Bird doesn't. People actually bought (and still buy) Mustangs. The T-Bird sold, yes, but it never sold well. Aside from 1977-1979 the Bird never sold in any huge numbers. The only reason it existed from 1980-1988 was because it was another way to sell an existing platform (Fox). It would not have survived on its own then, just as the MN12 didn't survive the 90's, and just as a new one wouldn't survive now. Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #46 – August 03, 2010, 08:42:32 PM heres one link\\\http://www.autoweek.com/article/2010...NEWS/100719935ill be back with more Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #47 – August 03, 2010, 08:48:08 PM Quote from: Sean Story\1988TURBO;330621yea dude we know ever since the mustang came out there has been tons of followers but lets stay on topic shall we, not to hate on mustangs but there are so many out there that it inset impressive any more, i like mustangs but to be honest the bird is a trip away from a mustang. witch makes it in a weird way better in my opinion. i like the stang but there every were. but t-birds did sell and why are you making the whole bring back the tbird thing back like its going to be hard to do and to south you friend they dont have to do it at THIS time. the perpous of signing that thing is get get the idea started and rolling and seeing were it goes ill search for the link for the SHO atical and post it for those who dont believe. see ya in a bit.Ok I think I can make sense of this post ..maybe I was on topic , I was referring to the letter writing campaign in the 1980s that kept the Mustang from becoming a Mazda based FWD car , And I never said I didn't believe there was an article I said I wanted to read it And I totally agree with Thunder Chicken's post above this one :D Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #48 – August 03, 2010, 08:48:20 PM Quote from: Sean Story\1988TURBO;330626heres one link\\\http://www.autoweek.com/article/2010...NEWS/100719935ill be back with more"The article requested can not be found!" Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #49 – August 03, 2010, 09:15:47 PM Quote from: daminc;330620I would much rather see a retro version of a 69-70 Eliminator my self. Other then that. I have no need to see anything from the 70s or 80s return.As close as I can get for ya. Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #50 – August 03, 2010, 09:34:18 PM Quote from: Watchdevil;330628"The article requested can not be found!"what do you mean it work fine on my end even if i click on the link i posted Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #51 – August 03, 2010, 09:35:42 PM deeaamn...hidden headlights and all:grinno:I had the same problem with link Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #53 – August 03, 2010, 11:51:09 PM Quote from: jandmmustangs;330631As close as I can get for ya.thats pretty mean looking actually lol Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #54 – August 04, 2010, 12:10:36 AM Here is a bigger version of it...And some others I have come across before...A Mercury Messenger concept done as a convertible...An unsual chop showing what a Cougar would look like with a Mustang Fastback roofline... Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #55 – August 04, 2010, 10:08:12 AM Has anyone mentioned yet that this is not the first time we've all seen a 'Bring back the Turbo-Coupe' petition make its rounds on the internet? I even signed the first one. That's when I realised we, the used car enthusiast, have ZERO influence on automakers, no matter what Ford's marketing department told you. If you want proof, ask the Pontiac guys how the new Firebird is looking.The SHO is a Ford Flex in a sedan body. All Ford cares about in that regard is selling the Ecoboost, not bringing back the SHO (how about that awesome automatic transmission). They had the car, they had the newly created powerplant. This is not the same as bringing back the Turbo T-bird.The story about (new) Mustang owners writing Ford letters over the Probe issue is also off base. The car was still in production, and Ford found another way to use the Mazda they invested in. This would be like us writing to Ford to ask them to keep the current Explorer going another few years and asking them to call the uni-body replacement a Bronco, or something. The lines are still running.All of that said, we have to remember that the car companies of the 80's are gone. They've learned big lessons about taking expensive risks on small-volume sellers. They want to build cars they know will sell, in hot segments, with long term returns. The Bill Ford Jr.s that build pointless little dream-cruisers like the retro-Thunderbird are gone for good (which is a good thing). Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #56 – August 04, 2010, 01:47:52 PM All these references to the Mustang-Probe debacle should not really be considered...Mustang was, is, and will always be Ford's #1 car.Ford knew they'd stand to lose a LOT of money if they gave us a front drive Mustang...fact is, I'm still surprised they ever admitted the Probe was a possible replacement. Dumb...If Thunderbirds had ever sold as well a Mustangs, why would they stop making them? It's nice to have passion, have hope, but most of us here are realists as well. The reality is that there will never be a TurboCoupe as we know it. Probably highly unlikely we'll also ever see another production Thunderbird.And I'm betting if we do, it'll have a backseat and at least a 5.0 liter V8.But as I said in one of my previous posts in this very thread, I'm not holding my breath. Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #57 – August 04, 2010, 03:25:43 PM Quote from: oldraven;330682The story about (new) Mustang owners writing Ford letters over the Probe issue is also off base. The car was still in production, and Ford found another way to use the Mazda they invested in. This would be like us writing to Ford to ask them to keep the current Explorer going another few years and asking them to call the uni-body replacement a Bronco, or something. The lines are still running..All these references to the Mustang-Probe debacle should not really be considered...(Thunderbirdsport302 ) Agreed It is not the same type of situation , but I believe it was referenced as an example of a letter writing campaign having an effect . At least it was in my posts :D I was working for Ford back when the Probe controversy was going on and I honestly believe Ford paid attention to the letters based on the pure volume of letters and the fact that the Mustang was a successful vehicle. So in that case they just left the Status Quo. In this case (as well as the SHO ) I don't think Ford honestly cares what a bunch of used car owners think , I do not doubt that the marketing department may have mentioned the SHO owner club/forum But only as a way of saying "We Care", which I put as much weight in as a politician saying "Trust Me " As I said before Good luck with this campaign, but I don't see it having any effect . Quote Selected
@ various Reply #58 – August 04, 2010, 10:56:39 PM To the OP, I'd like to hear your response to my first post. I wasn't specifically arguing against your position, rather trying to look at it from a rational business perspective.Watchdevil,Thanks for the photoshop pics. I've long considered doing a Cougar fastback, never seen one. IMO the Challenger-looking Cougar is fugly. Now, the black one, that has possiblilities.andMaybe one way to have a "Thunderbird" would be for Ford to do a 2dr Taurus and call it a T-Bird. They might even be able to squeeze new a new front end and tail lights into the deal. Quote Selected
ford and the new turbocoupe Reply #59 – August 05, 2010, 12:50:16 AM t3skidoo, good luck with that. I tried the rational business side approach on NATO and all I got was total ignorance and 15 year old attitude. At this point he's just beating a really dead horse. Quote Selected
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