Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #30 – July 31, 2009, 04:24:24 PM Quote from: 88turbo;284675how much shipped to 67005? ThanksHow's $15 shipped? I have PayPal and can get it out in the am for you. And just to clarify its for an 88 5.0 Thunderbird Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #31 – August 04, 2009, 02:17:34 PM I've made some good progress the last 2-3 days working on it here and there. I've been snapping pics as I go and will post them all once done. Cam swapped, new lifters installed, new timing chain installed, heads on and valves adjusted, installed timing cover, upper intake and fuel rails, should have it ready to fire by Friday. Just ordered # TAY-64658K ignition kit from 50resto.com should be here Thursday.Lessons learned: When intake bolt torque specks say 15-24 ft/lb. It really means 19 ft/lbs. Ask me how I know. I was on the last torquing sequence at 21 ft/lbs and heard a loud snap!! that almost wanted to make me get sick. The last bolt to be torqued broke off in the head. :mad:I yanked the lower off and headed to the parts store for any easy out and new set of gaskets. It's all good though. It's getting close.Also learned the SO lower is cast differently in the rear of the intake where the PCV goes. HO lower requires a rubber grommet for the pcv to plug in and SO PCV goes straight into the intake. [COLOR="Red"]THIS INFORMATION IS WRONG THEY ARE THE SAME IT WAS DARK AND THE GROMMET WAS SO OLD IT WAS HARD AS A ROCK. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION[/COLOR] Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #32 – August 04, 2009, 05:34:11 PM Quote from: quick50stng;285206Also learned the SO lower is cast differently in the rear of the intake where the PCV goes. HO lower requires a rubber grommet for the pcv to plug in and SO PCV goes straight into the intake.Hmm. On mine It was identical. I simply moved the grommet from the SO to the HO (then to the Typhoon but thats a different story). Does anyone know where I can get one of those new (the grommet) ? The one have is hard as a rock.P.S. I never torque to the max torque. I usually calculate the middle of the range as I figure that the mean value was the target and max and min are just the tolerances. Eg. I torque my intake bolts to 20 ft/lbs. Go over the intake bolts in order several times. I found that as I torqued it down, the middle bolts would always be slightly under. I keep going through the sequence till all bolts are at 20ft/lbs. I have had good results doing it this way. Also, remember that if you are using an extension, it changes the torque reading. Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #33 – August 04, 2009, 06:41:30 PM Late Model Restoration sells the grommet for $8 i just ordered one today. 50resto.comI was using an extension when torquing and started at 10 , 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 (lol). I was scared another was going to snap so I repeated the pattern 6x. Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #34 – August 04, 2009, 09:12:46 PM I got my PVC grommet at Autozone. Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #35 – August 04, 2009, 10:00:12 PM Personally, I use at least grade 8 threaded rod, cut to length, and use it all as studs. Prevents broken off bolts and you get much better clamping. ARP studs or grade 8 studs from a store are nice too though. This also makes alignment issues a thing of the past.Were you using old bolts? That in itself would cause it not to be able to get to torque spec. 20 years of heating cycles can do some nasty things. Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #36 – August 05, 2009, 05:33:51 AM I was using a set of stock bolts I had laying around the shop because they were all clean and ready to go.Upper/lower intake, fuel rails, and exhaust all back on now. Just have to install the water pump and front dress and will be ready to fire Thursday. :burnout::burnout::burnout: Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #37 – August 05, 2009, 07:34:43 AM I always toss the stock bolts, and use ARP intake set.:D Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #38 – August 05, 2009, 09:15:52 AM With the extra money I spent on gaskets I could have bought a set of ARP's:punchballs: Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #39 – August 05, 2009, 09:58:21 AM Quote from: quick50stng;285363With the extra money I spent on gaskets I could have bought a set of ARP's:punchballs:LOL, been there, done that. Had bolts break, both on assembly and disassembly , now I just toss them.:D Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #40 – August 05, 2009, 11:39:12 AM I'll do my best to get all the pics up tonight. I'm thrashing trying to get the car done by Thursday/Friday for a 2 hr car cruise on Saturday and want 1/2 day to drive shake down any problems beforehand. I've got some good progress pics + side by side pics of HO upper throttle bore opening vs SO and Throttle bodies, and cam pics. Coming soon. Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #41 – August 06, 2009, 10:29:49 PM BEFORETEAR DOWNHO CAM & E-7's installedGetting closer Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #42 – August 06, 2009, 10:32:24 PM HO on left SO on right Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #43 – August 06, 2009, 11:33:10 PM Sweeeeeeet !!!!!!! Quote Selected
Documented E-7 upgrade coming soon (with lots of pics) Reply #44 – August 07, 2009, 03:39:24 PM what are the differences on H.O to S.O on the bottom? I would assume the same since they use the same lower intake. Quote Selected
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