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Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #15
Quote from: jpc647;280062
I like it. How'd you get the red stripe on the bumper? lol


It's blood ;D
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1974 Falcon XB-GT Coupe
1988 Thunderbird Sport
1962 Thunderbird convertible
1971 Mustang Mach1 429SCJ

Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #16
Quote from: EricCoolCats;280131
It's been done before...
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=8252&highlight=shaker


Not exactly. The ofther is an aftermarket scoop which is mounted to the upper intake. There's no filter box or any way to make it functional. It is a very nice hood scoop though.
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1974 Falcon XB-GT Coupe
1988 Thunderbird Sport
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1971 Mustang Mach1 429SCJ

Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #17
Quote from: RunninWild;280129
Where did you get this kit man? It looks awesome!


Thanks, it's my own brand. I might put it into production if I can generate enough interest.
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1974 Falcon XB-GT Coupe
1988 Thunderbird Sport
1962 Thunderbird convertible
1971 Mustang Mach1 429SCJ

Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #18
Quote from: shame302;280072
Well, its much, much easier to do it that way in a cat/bird but with a fiberglass hood and an 03-04 mach 1 hood, damaged or whatever, or some fabbing it could be done "the right way". Could probably be done with the stock metal hood as well with the right tools/skills.


I'm pretty sure when CDC designed the 2003 Mach 1 shaker hood the used a fiberglass buldge on the hood because the hood had a recess that worked with the factory hood scoop that all GT's wore. I guess I show my age as the original shaker was is what I patterened my install from. The 2003 had to mod the hood to make the shaker. Tbirds don't have that handicap.
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1974 Falcon XB-GT Coupe
1988 Thunderbird Sport
1962 Thunderbird convertible
1971 Mustang Mach1 429SCJ

Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #19
Quote from: vinnietbird;280116
O.K.,here are my questions.....

How much for a kit?
What kind of filter does it require?
How will it work for a Mass Air car (like mine)?


I'm still working on a price. I might use the 2003 MCh1 scoop if I can get a discount on a bulk purchase. I'm waiting on my friend to supply me with  the hoses for mass air so I can mock it up. Maybe next weekend. Uses a cone filter insiedd the air box.
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1974 Falcon XB-GT Coupe
1988 Thunderbird Sport
1962 Thunderbird convertible
1971 Mustang Mach1 429SCJ

Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #20
I dig.  Did you use a sn95 Shaker kit?

Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #21
That's Awesome!!  :burnout:
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Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #22
Quote from: danzajax;280160
I dig.  Did you use a sn95 Shaker kit?


No, I coundn't as the engine & chassis are completely different. The scoop mount for the mod engine doesn't come close to fitting the 5.0. This is a unit I came up with at the request of the Fox Mustang crowd. I'll admit it was slow to come around but since I don't have a fox mustang it had to wait. I took pocession of moms T-Bird a few months ago and that gave me a basis for the project.

What scoop do you think would look better, the squared off 2003 Mach1 or the vintage shaker scoop ?
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1974 Falcon XB-GT Coupe
1988 Thunderbird Sport
1962 Thunderbird convertible
1971 Mustang Mach1 429SCJ

Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #23
Quote from: vinnietbird;280102
I like it a lot.A whole lot.I wanted one for my car for a long time while I was building it,but could never afford one (there was a kit for Fox Stangs that was almost $700.00).I can't remember the company,but I think they folded anyway.I'd still install one if I could find one that I can afford.


That company was Banshee. They were big for a bit and were the rave in all the 5.0 mags for a good while.  I feel their demise was due to a couple factors. First, they didn't use a mustang scoop. They used their own desing that looked too far from what we know as a mustang shaker. Second the entire assy was made from plastic. I don't use plastic because it can warp & bend under extreme condtions.  I don't expect I'll do much better with this as it it more costly than I'd like. Mainly the scoop & seal. I understand why they cheaped out on those two parts.
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1974 Falcon XB-GT Coupe
1988 Thunderbird Sport
1962 Thunderbird convertible
1971 Mustang Mach1 429SCJ

Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #24
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I'm pretty sure when CDC designed the 2003 Mach 1 shaker hood the used a fiberglass buldge on the hood because the hood had a recess that worked with the factory hood scoop that all GT's wore. I guess I show my age as the original shaker was is what I patterened my install from. The 2003 had to mod the hood to make the shaker. Tbirds don't have that handicap.
The buldge isnt my issue. Ford recessed the hole in the hood with a return rather than cutting a hole in a flat panel. It looks better that way.
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What scoop do you think would look better, the squared off 2003 Mach1 or the vintage shaker scoop ?
The "vintage" mach 1 scoop and the 03-04 mach scoop are the same.

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Not exactly. The ofther is an aftermarket scoop which is mounted to the upper intake. There's no filter box or any way to make it functional. It is a very nice hood scoop though.
You do realize that unless that fender plenum isn't open to the fender like a cold air kit the "functionality" to the shaker will be a functional restriction. Other than the "cool" factor no real benefits would be had. You did the same thing as that guy, you just used a different scoop. Yours isnt any more "functional" untill its hooked up to the air box which as of yet, isn't. Don't discount what that other user did, they did the same thing you did but before you ;0)

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O.K.,here are my questions.....

How much for a kit?
What kind of filter does it require?
How will it work for a Mass Air car (like mine)?
I'm pretty sure the 03-04 mach 1 airbox would fit on the fox fender. Mounts for the shaker and its base would be easy enough to fab up. Only hard part would feeding the airbox as the mach 1 unit looks like it would hit the distributer, so that junction would have to be changed. I wouldnt bother joining them as stated before, no benefit to do so. i removed mine as the SC is going in that location anyway.

Oh, and pardon me, apparently im in a mood...
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Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #25
Well it looks great.  The view from the dash really puts it in the "must have" category. +10 points!

Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #26
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Well it looks great.  The view from the dash really puts it in the "must have" category. +10 points!
They sure do.....
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Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #27
Quote from: shame302;280175
The buldge isnt my issue. Ford recessed the hole in the hood with a return rather than cutting a hole in a flat panel. It looks better that way.
The "vintage" mach 1 scoop and the 03-04 mach scoop are the same.

 You do realize that unless that fender plenum isn't open to the fender like a cold air kit the "functionality" to the shaker will be a functional restriction. Other than the "cool" factor no real benefits would be had. You did the same thing as that guy, you just used a different scoop. Yours isnt any more "functional" untill its hooked up to the air box which as of yet, isn't. Don't discount what that other user did, they did the same thing you did but before you ;0)

I'm pretty sure the 03-04 mach 1 airbox would fit on the fox fender. Mounts for the shaker and its base would be easy enough to fab up. Only hard part would feeding the airbox as the mach 1 unit looks like it would hit the distributer, so that junction would have to be changed. I wouldnt bother joining them as stated before, no benefit to do so. i removed mine as the SC is going in that location anyway.

Oh, and pardon me, apparently im in a mood...



Wow, a mood huhh ? Couldn't tell. Don't think I'm putting any one elses work down because I'm not. It takes a lot of time, effort and money to bring a product to market. :punchballs: There are lots of hard parts and very few easy ones. The fender plenum isn't in play because my air box is closed except for the inlet from the scoop and outlet to the engine. The scoop & air box are connected by a 3" hose which I neglected to install as I left it home. I apologise for that being too mcuh to visualize.

You're right about there being no real benifit to the shaker EXCEPT the cool factor. The factory did a good job by bringing the air through the fenderwell, no boubt. No argument. Shaker is just cool. Plenty of what we do to our cars is more for cool and function.  This is no different.

The 2003 Mach1 and vintage scoop are not the same. They share the same dimensions externally but the face and mounting is different. The 2003 has a flat edge on the front of the scoop and the grille is flat & much much fatter than the original. I thought the same until I bought a 2003 scoop and compared it side by side to an original. They also differ in the the vintage scoop requires a lower half called the seal retainer ( also mounts the scoop) where the 2003 doesn't use a seal and mounts directly to the bracket assy.

The 2003 Mach1 scoop is a very nice peice and looks kick ass on the newer mustangs. I'm just a touch older than the original mustang and as such grew up with what are now vintage cars. This is the look I was after and the look I got. I confess to not having the metal work skills to making a finished d egde like on the 2003 but the trim ring finishes it off nicely in my opinion. :D

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1974 Falcon XB-GT Coupe
1988 Thunderbird Sport
1962 Thunderbird convertible
1971 Mustang Mach1 429SCJ

Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #28
Keep me posted,I am interested.
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Functional Thunderbird Shaker Protype

Reply #29
So you used a "vintage" shaker instead of a readily available one and plan to market it?

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The fender plenum isn't in play because my air box is closed except for the inlet from the scoop and outlet to the engine
I'd probably re-think that. Tough to sell a product that will hurt performance in the name of looks. Easy fix though.
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Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT
FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
~John~