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Bluish fire

Reply #30
Quote from: jcassity;277463


"You say the spark is fine, (nice and bluish white).  Best checked in darker situations."
 
 Where am I supposed to be looking for this bluish/white fire? Is the engine supposed to be running for this? is it supposed to be up to temp.. do i take the cap off and look in it while someone spins the motor?
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Reply #31
perhaps i did jumped the gun on this as i didnt consider the differences between a v6 and v8 distributor. last i remember they werent too different on the inside.

remove distributor cap
remove the rotor
locate the two bolts holding down the metal slotted thing(i cant remember the technical name)
remove the two bolts  and remove to gain access to the PIP module
remove the two bolts retaining the PIP module
remove the PIP module
installation is reverse of removal

is this wrong? if so will i have my ghetto bus pass revoked?

pulling the distributor requires you to punch out the pin holding the gear on(which you should replace if you do) to remove the shaft inorder to gain access to the PIP sensor.  maybe this method is easier for you but i didnt have a timing light(i do it all by feel/sound) so i would like to pull the distributor as little as possible. plus it was less likely i would mess up the rubber o ring for the shaft.
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Reply #32
Quote from: odie12372;277679
Quote from: jcassity;277463


"You say the spark is fine, (nice and bluish white).  Best checked in darker situations."
 
 Where am I supposed to be looking for this bluish/white fire? Is the engine supposed to be running for this? is it supposed to be up to temp.. do i take the cap off and look in it while someone spins the motor?



your spark plug he means, he means your spark plugs should be firing a bluish white spark. yes, your motor should be running for this:P
you could rent a calibrated igniton tester, free at autohole(deposit)
i never do the old "touch the motor with the spark plug" test.
"Beating the hell out of other peoples cars since 1999"
1983 Ford Thunderbird Heritage
1984 Ford Mustang GT Turbo Convertible
2015 Ford Focus SE 1.0 EcoBoost

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Reply #33
Quote from: Ductape91;277690
pulling the distributor requires you to punch out the pin holding the gear on(which you should replace if you do) to remove the shaft inorder to gain access to the PIP sensor.  maybe this method is easier for you but i didnt have a timing light(i do it all by feel/sound) so i would like to pull the distributor as little as possible. plus it was less likely i would mess up the rubber o ring for the shaft.

This is the only it can be done on my 84 3.8 with the bolted on rotor.

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Reply #34
Quote from: odie12372;277679
Quote from: jcassity;277463


"You say the spark is fine, (nice and bluish white).  Best checked in darker situations."
 
 Where am I supposed to be looking for this bluish/white fire? Is the engine supposed to be running for this? is it supposed to be up to temp.. do i take the cap off and look in it while someone spins the motor?


I unplug an easy plug to get to
stuff an old plug into the boot
lay the boot up on the strut tower
unplug fuel pump relay back in the trunk
this will prevent fuel delivery while doing the next step
make sure spark plug is just touching the strut tower

reach in window and crank engine
if your outside, its easy to see the bluish white spark at night, or kill lights in garage.


for the stator replacement,, ducttape91 is right.........

with a marker
mark the dizzy housing directly across from where rotor button is pointing.
this prevents you from having to do top dead center number 1 steps
remove dizzy hold down bolt / clamp on engine.
plull up on dizzy housing and jiggle rotor button to help it out as the center shaft rotates as you lift.
**CAUTION,, its likely your oil pump shaft will stay in the engine if the dizzy has not been removed before.
If the hex shaped long shaft comes out with the dizzy, let us know.
remove dizzy
punch out the roll pin holding the dizzy gear
good luck getting gear off (i have one method that works every time although its controversial sp?)
once the gear is off, pull center dizzy shaft out
remove two bolts holding stator
install new stator
put dizzy back together
Insure you mark your dizzy gear to shaft.
the roll pin hole is not installed perfectly center and can go in backwards
once the gear is on, drop the dizzy in and reset timing.

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Reply #35
does anyone know ? did the stock 5.0 non HO come with a steel gear on the distributor or a cast iron gear..... And is 3/32 of in to much play between the shaft and the housing of the distributor? ... I took my largest spark plug feeler gauge .100 won't quite get in the gap around .95 will fit in the gap... 87 non ho came with a roller cam right?
  I just read somewhere that the stangs with roller cams had a steel gear... and the ones with a regular tappet cam came with cast.... True or false.. it was a stang site i read this at..
 I bought an 86 capri... to get the car running I help him pull a stock 5.0 out of a 88 t-bird to put in it so I could drive it home...later I had to replace a head gasket and pulled one of the lifters and it had a roller lifter in it.... but did the 87's have a roller cam?
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Reply #36
i think softtouch is talking about a duraspark system.  Ford has revisited this concept in years following and i like it.  for such a simple part , its location on our EECIV systems is very labor intensive.

like i said, you could be fine, it could just be the connector or contact of the TFI to the STATOR.

A quick remedy if the STATOR contacts are jacked would be to do the following:
remove TFI

slightly bend the blades evently across.
reinstall TFI
this will force the TFI blades to canter forward or back and forcing contact to the Stators' electrical contacts.

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Reply #37
does anyone know ? did the stock 5.0 non HO come with a steel gear on the distributor or a cast iron gear..... And is 3/32 of in to much play between the shaft and the housing of the distributor? ... I took my largest spark plug feeler gauge .100 won't quite get in the gap around .95 will fit in the gap... 87 non ho came with a roller cam right?
I just read somewhere that the stangs with roller cams had a steel gear... and the ones with a regular tappet cam came with cast.... True or false.. it was a stang site i read this at..
I bought an 86 capri... to get the car running I help him pull a stock 5.0 out of a 88 t-bird to put in it so I could drive it home...later I had to replace a head gasket and pulled one of the lifters and it had a roller lifter in it.... but did the 87's have a roller cam?
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Reply #38
ALL '86-up SEFI 5.0s use a steel roller cam SO & HO, no exceptions... The 5.0 EFI truck/van engines use a flat tappet cam and have cast iron dist gears up till '94 or so...  3/32" is a whopping amount of slop...

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Reply #39
Well I ordered my distributor ..... will be here in the morning.... Thanks Oreillys.... Yeah, I figure that was enough play in the distributor to cause it to float... I hope this is it.... Wife is spazzing out over all this money.... I was gonna get it from autozone.... but, it was gonna take 3 days....orielly's said they could have next day.... oh for your information..I bought my tfi module from autozone back at the end of march.... they told me that they can't won't honor the warranties on any electronic parts anymore... They said the automotive industry pulled there warranties.. so autozone can't honor the warranty... if they did they'd lose money.... Aint that some ...
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Reply #40
Well I got my distributor... installed it.... set the timing.... 1rst test run no cutting out.... came back to the house. wife wanted to go to walmart.. I never cut the car off she hopped in we took off.. got up on the highway (wot) started cutting out.... It wasn't real bad. But, it was cooler tonight.... The real test will be tomorrow on the way home in 5 O'clock traffic.. Plus it'll be alot hotter then... what else can I do or check ... I've gotta fuel pressure regulator... I guess that'll be next....
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Reply #41
why are you bringing up fuel now?

you said that was good although you didnt do step 2 of the test.

I know  well you paid a pretty penny for that dizzy and if you find out your fuel presure is wrong, man oh man.

Do you have fuel smell or fuel moisture in the FPR?

This would have been discovered earlier if the fuel presure test failed with engine under a load.

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Reply #42
Last Night I was running low on fuel... might have been what caused it to cut out.. But it didn't cut out this morning on the way to work....I put gas in my car this afternoon and drove it home from work .... No cutting back.. It was 90 degrees here in SC. So it was more than just hot outside..., .. Besides the hose on my fuel pressure tester isn't long enough to reach out side of the hood..... The Distributor was only 64 bucks... It's a reman.. but, the only one they could get next day....
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Reply #43
Glad it seems OK, with the fuel system work you'd already put into it, I didn't figure it was a fuel problem... Never seen a fuel problem that was temp related either, usually that's a electronic problem...

Hint... IF you want that fuel pump to keep living, DO NOT run low on fuel... It depends on the gas in the to help keep it cool and lubricate it, I refill mine when it gets around a 1/4 tank...

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Reply #44
Well, If everything still seems ok in a few days... that'll be my next fix.... Is the Gas gauge... The Digital gas gauge Went out about 3 weeks ago... Filled it up and it's been on empty ever since....... Been going by mileage....
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