It's do or die for GM, Chrysler: GM given 60 days, Chrysler 30

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It's do or die for GM, Chrysler: GM given 60 days, Chrysler 30

Reply #60 – April 01, 2009, 02:08:16 AM

Tiny bit off topic but not an april fools joke,
chrysler being told to marry Fiat,
Fiat being partially owned by Libia.

This whole mess sounds like the godfather. I always wondered where all that last minute money came from for the purple hand. Now its time to pay someone back.

It's do or die for GM, Chrysler: GM given 60 days, Chrysler 30

Reply #61 – April 01, 2009, 02:27:37 AM

I remember reading something early last fall about GM drastically cutting back support to NASCAR...no surprise here if they dropped out altogether.

As far as anything else to say...well, to me, it's all political, and I ain't a gittin in THAT shiznitstorm!

But I think GM will either sink, or swim like a fish before it's all said and done.
Chrysler....bye bye birdie...RIP
Ford...hold yer course Cap'n...better waters ahead.

Just my opinions though...

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Reply #62 – April 01, 2009, 02:36:48 AM

Quote from: Cougar5.0;265193

Number 2 makes an appearance.

:hick:

Hey, I argued against the people who thought she should be convicted and executed for sedition. I knew she'd only get a slap on the wrist and even more attention.

It is everyones constitutional right to do just that, Sedition is.....

The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).

Put simply, sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state and has to do with giving aid to enemies or levying war. Sedition is more about encouraging the people to rebel, where treason is actually betraying the country. Sedition laws somewhat equate to Terrorism and Public Order laws.

After by default being called a psychotic moron and
shiznit (ie-number 2),

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Reply #63 – April 01, 2009, 02:45:19 AM

Quote from: FordTruckFreeek;265213

I remember reading something early last fall about GM drastically cutting back support to NASCAR...no surprise here if they dropped out altogether.

As far as anything else to say...well, to me, it's all political, and I ain't a gittin in THAT shiznitstorm!

But I think GM will either sink, or swim like a fish before it's all said and done.
Chrysler....bye bye birdie...RIP
Ford...hold yer course Cap'n...better waters ahead.

Just my opinions though...

I heard an interesting point made today.........

"what happended to montgomery ward, packard, desoto,ect ect,
Companies who cant evolve with the demands of the times fell by the wayside."

It works, companies come and go.
What has me a little curious now is what becomes of companies who are watching the gov't reaction to GM as well as a pre-arranged marrage of chrysler to fiat. If these other companies are in trouble or heading towards it, recent interaction by the govt may prevent them from asking for help. Times may be coming closer and closer to more unbelievable news.

It's do or die for GM, Chrysler: GM given 60 days, Chrysler 30

Reply #64 – April 01, 2009, 09:21:00 AM

Scott, I called Bachman a "psychotic moron" for promoting sedition against our government, not you. I try not to laugh when I see you take insults to politicians personally. You're not her are you? Since there are 2 people who regularly and consistently defend everything right-wing - and you were the 2nd to post... BTW, YOU insulted me in your post captain hypocrite.

So, correct me if I'm wrong - instead of having to smartly salute the President and swear allegiance and be an everlasting patriot as I've heard for the past 8 years, now I'm supposed to support people who would describe themselves as a foreign agitator attempting to overthrow the US government? Who are the terrorists now? I'm confused.

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Reply #65 – April 01, 2009, 09:26:01 AM

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                                                      Originally Posted by V8Demon
             Here's more disturbing news, Komrades.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...car_car _news

I did a little "research" on that story and here's what I came up with:
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                                      Go to the original link ...

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ascar_car_news

Note the following:
1. Just to the right of the Motorsports banner, it reads that this is 7 of 210.
2. Click on the 'Previous' button to go to Article #6. Note that the counter now reads "6 of 209".
3. Click on the "Next" button, and you'll see that NOW article #7 is "We Drive a Honda F1 Car", and this article is showing as 7 of 209.

It's a gag.
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                I think it's an APRIL FOOLS gag... just google "JARED GALL" (the author) and you'll see his other April fools gags he's done while at Car and Driver.

Worthy of note here is the fact that of how easy everyone that reads this would believe it.

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Reply #66 – April 01, 2009, 09:38:34 AM

Well watchin the news last night the honda plant in marysville ohio is cutting production,reducing hours,and trying to get buyouts from employees. And layoffs are just around the corner. Just thought I would throw that in there even though its not gm or chrystler

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Reply #67 – April 01, 2009, 10:41:43 AM

Quote from: daddybair7;265259

Well watchin the news last night the honda plant in marysville ohio is cutting production,reducing hours,and trying to get buyouts from employees. And layoffs are just around the corner. Just thought I would throw that in there even though its not gm or chrystler

A valid point too many people ignore. It's not just GM and Chrysler. It's everyone. They were just the first to ask for aid, and if it wasn't for the inflated gas prices of a year ago, BMW would have been first in asking Germany for aid. But because they did, and the D3 went to congress together before anyone else, and it was televised, and every news publication in the world covered it to the greatest extent, and still do, they are the ones getting raked over the public coals.

This is the media bias I've been whining about for years.

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Reply #68 – April 01, 2009, 11:20:36 AM

Quote from: oldraven;265263

A valid point too many people ignore. It's not just GM and Chrysler. It's everyone. They were just the first to ask for aid, and if it wasn't for the inflated gas prices of a year ago, BMW would have been first

Your right ALL auto makers are hurting and our three are getting the worst coverage in the media . I not even going the start talking about the slimy evil,bloodsucking parasites of the Oil industry ,those guys make John Gotti and Berni Madoff look like the Pope and the Dali Lama.

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Reply #69 – April 01, 2009, 11:23:40 AM

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This is the media bias I've been whining about for years.

See post #47

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Reply #70 – April 01, 2009, 11:59:44 AM

Quote from: V8Demon;265271

See post #47

I see what you did there.

I still think we'd be better off with stricter labour laws than with a redundant Union, but I get what you're saying. The media has been painting them as the evil industry killer. Not that they don't have a point, with certain Unions out there.

And there are specific trades that are accounted for by Labour Laws. For the record, I have many union workers in my family, including my mother, who would still be making little more than minimum wage if it weren't for them. But I have to wonder why she was paid so little to begin with. Labour Laws already exist for the public sector (she's been a custodian for the Straight Regional School Board since I was in Elementary School), including those for Teachers. I'm not sure what it's like in the US, but our Labour Laws are very inclusive and cover a large range of sectors, so the Unions have no real purpose here other than to get higher wages for members (and drive away jobs), when every skilled worker should be entitled to that same pay, member or not, and should have wages that can keep the companies competitive. If there's an area the Laws are lacking, well.... fix them. This is a personal opinion, because I've never heard this argument from any kind of media outlet.

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/lp/spila/clli/irlc/01industrial_relations_legislation_canada.shtml

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/labour/labour_law/index.shtml

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Reply #71 – April 02, 2009, 12:18:03 AM

Quote from: oldraven;265274

I've never heard this argument from any kind of media outlet.

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/lp/spila/clli/irlc/01industrial_relations_legislation_canada.shtml

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/labour/labour_law/index.shtml

neither have I, often wonder about that when the Union bug comes around.

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Reply #72 – April 02, 2009, 12:20:48 AM

Quote from: daddybair7;265259

Well watchin the news last night the honda plant in marysville ohio is cutting production,

Heard anything further on the local beats about this?

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Reply #73 – April 02, 2009, 12:41:38 AM

Jcassity no I haven't missed the news tonight neighbers dog kill one of my dads calfs yesterday morning so when my dogs start acting up I was outside with the spot light. My outside dogs consist of 2 jackrussels,and a beagle/sheperd mix all females ill keep an update on the honda thing if I hear anymore. Well my take on the auto thing is
1. All of them are in a downfall
2. Union or nonunion the ceos and investors if they don't keep up with time they fall on their asses
3. All the media has been on the big 3 and all the others have been able to fly under the radar untill now
4.I need to win the lottery lol
Well that's my thoughts even though they don't count for much just hopeing ford survives and starts makeing a new foxbody car again.

It's do or die for GM, Chrysler: GM given 60 days, Chrysler 30

Reply #74 – April 03, 2009, 12:05:38 AM

what would be neat is if they would come out with all original classics.

imagine a 2009 / 1987 20th anny
or, a 2009 - 1988 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe!

Savings on the audo industry,, perhaps
Reason is all the engineering is already done, ford probably has records on all the build sheets, tooling would probably be a minimum.

Chevy can just come out with the 2009 / whatever year they want to.

Imagine your second chance to buy a car from days gone by but its brand new!!