About therangerstation.com Reply #15 – December 10, 2008, 01:14:46 PM guess who wins here...Ford? Nope...the go@%&!mn lawyers. aww hell, lets bail them out anyway. By the way I read GM is planning to invest over $1BILLION in it's brazil plant. http://nationalexpositor.com/News/1507.html Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #16 – December 10, 2008, 01:19:27 PM I call BS on this. Not that I don't believe that TRS got the letter; it did, or obviously this wouldn't be such a big deal. The whole thing just reeks of extortion.A few great quotes from the Jalopnik link say it best:QuoteThis is a scam. The lawfirm is looking for a quick buck to scare the website claiming copywright infringement. This is not the first time things like this have happened. The lawfirm threatens action, knowing that the accused can't afford the legal fees. They then demand a small monetary fee and a cease and desist order banking that the website owner will be scared into paying. Nine times out of ten, they pay the fee and the shady lawfirm makes out like a bandit. Ford could care less about therangerstation.com. I think they'd care more about the asshat that published the spyphotos of the 2010 Taurus than that shiznitty pickup that's been around for 100 years.I hope the owner of the ranger webpage doesn't pay up.Yep. That's basically what my gut instinct is telling me.LOL @ the "shiznitty pickup" part thoughQuoteOne thing to keep in mind here, is that Ford likely isn't fully responsible for this: their lawyers are. When "VW" did this to a whole host of fansites a year or two ago, it was revealed that VW didn't necessarily tell their lawyers to seek out every copyright infringement they could find, and threaten lawsuits left and right - they just gave the lawyers carte blanche, and told them that they would get a cut of whatever settlements they secured. A friend of mine who runs a German-Car enthusiast website received a similar threat, essentially told the lawyers to piss off, and never heard from them again, because it's not really worth their time to pursue insignificant claims like that. I'm betting this is a similar scenario. So while Ford should get some flak for letting their lawyers be asshats, the law firm is who we should be critical of.QuoteStupid Ford. RIAA tactics are not the way to win loyalty.How astute to correlate this situation with what the RIAA does. Except we're going to assume that people paid for the cars. QuoteScrew you Ford... I'm going to get a ranger riding a mustang to restore your focus on the expedition needed to escape from the edge of bankruptcy.That just cracked me up. QuoteI guess Ford really didn't learn from their failed lawsuit on Robert Lane in the early part of the decade.BINGO!(Refer to http://www.blueovalnews.com)QuoteF ucking O ver R emaining D evoteesGod, how we live that statement every day...QuoteHey, here's an idea: how about calling Ford for an official statement first?I'm in active discussions with our Chief Trademark Counsel to see what the real story here is.Next time, Jalopnik, I'd appreciate a little more professional journalism.Scott MontyGlobal Digital CommunicationsFord Motor CompanyOh FU(KIN' REAAALLLLLLYYYY?!?!Won't that be an interesting meeting. To be a fly on the wall...So yeah, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #17 – December 10, 2008, 01:19:30 PM Yeah I read that the firm representing them jumped the gun. F*** LAWYERS. Money-hungry POS's. Wow. Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #18 – December 10, 2008, 01:30:34 PM Scott Monty has been posting in that thread @ TRS. He stated at one point he had no knowledge of the situation......http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showpost.php?p=274340&postcount=706 Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #19 – December 10, 2008, 02:07:32 PM guess I should be thinking about changing my screenname, as it's also my email (for 3 different accounts) as well as the screenname to numerous forums and websites, even myspace...Hell, I ain't got 5 grand to give them...money grubbin' s.Think I might go buy an old Camaro to wrench on if they keep this stupid shiznit up...no wonder they're going tits-up. Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #20 – December 10, 2008, 05:06:19 PM Well there is no judgment against him so there is no obligation to pay, and even with a judgment against you many do not pay. Ask OJ about this one LOL. If he gives them one nickel he is a fool. I say if this is how ford acts why not start a board reasonsnottobuydomestic.com. Hey ford make some more bad business decisions build cars no one wants then expect us taxpayers to save you company. When I make a bad decision no one saves me. Maybe Ford can take our bailout money and hire a few thousand people to patrol flea markets and such to bust mom and pop who might be selling something with a logo similar to the ford logo. Keep making those good business decisions ford and no one will want to be near your logo no matter that you pay them. Maybe ford should give up internet patol and get back to attempting to build a decent car.On a side note I started looking for my latest vehicle at a ford dealer in 2007 I tried the taurus/500, the edge and the fusion. I cared for none. I next went to Chevy and Buick and again cared for nothing I now drive a hyundai sonata v-6 SE after many tauruses, crown vics, and birds all I can say is i had no idea how good a car could be and do everything right domestics you'll probably never get me back Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #21 – December 10, 2008, 05:11:06 PM Another problem than just the name.http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showpost.php?p=274467&postcount=793Finishedhttp://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?p=274763#post274763 Quote Selected
Ranger Reply #22 – December 10, 2008, 05:11:06 PM ....................and Ford wonders why their ass is in deep trouble? I can see it now.............some over paid moron in a meeting screaming ....... "Hey.......let's screw the people that enjoy our cars and trucks for using our name". We'll make millions.:burnout: Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #23 – December 10, 2008, 05:13:27 PM Actually Ford was pissed about the fact that TRS was selling decals with the Ford logo on it. The lawyers just went overboard with the scare tactics(nothing new).The thread over on trs has been locked. this is the latest update......... via last post on that threadQuoteOur (my) Agreement With Ford (remedy) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------A while back I had started making decals such as the old FORD tailgate letters, and offering some other decals for Ranger enthusiasts such as the Ranger windshield banner with the Ford logos on each side of it. Although it was intended to be used as a way to keep The Ranger Station up and running and not a method of becoming independently wealthy...it was vilolating Fords trademarks. I have talked to Scott Monty from Ford Motor Company and have agreed to:1) Stop selling the decals since I do not have a trademark license to sell2) Agree that the 'Ranger' is a product of Ford.3) Not display any ads on The Ranger Station that would promote a competitor (Example: Banner ad for the new Chevy Colorado, etc)4) Not use the site to make disparaging comments about Ford (AKA - Anti Ford Site)5) Not turn The Ranger Station name over to anyone else.I believe that's about it. I'm waiting from a letter from their attorney.In return, Ford will allow us to keep The Ranger Station name and will not require that I pay the $5000.00 that the attorneys were asking for.Scott went on to tell me that they recognize and support their fan websites and I would suggest that any other website owner/administrator reading this will be OK if they judge themselves on the items I had listed above. If you have ad banners you may want to make sure you have Fords competition filtered out.I would like to say thanks to those that emailed Ford and spread the word. The attention and support from other enthusiats greatly helped in getting this resolved quickly.I would ask that anyone who has posted about this on another website link the discussions here and ask that the moderator on that site lock the topic.I also want to thank the other site owners for their support.Not sure what is going on with the stang site though. Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #24 – December 10, 2008, 10:05:17 PM Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Saying you have a ranger on the internet is not a crime. If I had a chevy ad, I'd tell em to screw it. They can't extort things they don't own in order to take out advertising for the competition. If I were in charge of the ranger station, I would be filing a law suit. Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #25 – December 10, 2008, 11:07:57 PM My opinions aside, but 88FoxBird (post #24 here) seems to sum it up.Copyright infringement is nothing new. Just look at those being arrested for music piracy. And yet Ipods and such are for sale. Just like bongs "for tobacco use only" lol. Ford decals not sold by Ford. so on and so on. Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #26 – December 10, 2008, 11:42:54 PM hey!!! leave my "tobacco" wares and ipod alone........-542 Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #27 – December 11, 2008, 01:17:16 AM pu$$y trs.They are willing to give up freedom of speech?"4) Not use the site to make disparaging comments about Ford (AKA - Anti Ford Site)"They would have to show up at my door serving paper to make this hold. Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #28 – December 11, 2008, 01:21:06 AM Quote4) Not use the site to make disparaging comments about Ford (AKA - Anti Ford Site)"They would have to show up at my door serving paper to make this hold.Hmmm I guess they should target LS1tech then as well :rolleyes:Here, they can sue me now if they wish... Quote Selected
About therangerstation.com Reply #29 – December 11, 2008, 04:33:33 PM Closed by request of the OP. Quote Selected