Let the questioning begin!

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Re: Let the questioning begin!

Reply #45 – February 03, 2005, 11:58:30 AM

ya dude, i can understand the limitations with this project, but you should really consider the mustang h-pipe with cats. $250 is not bad
and there not that hard to install. I't would be well worth it. I have a
h-pipe on my 'bird with no cats at all (no emissions testing, well not yet any ways) and super 40's to side pipes with 3" tips. get the stock mustang headers as well. Heck, I'll have a set I could sell ya' soon to make way for BBK equal length shorties...

Re: Let the questioning begin!

Reply #46 – February 03, 2005, 12:13:48 PM

Quote from: tbirdmanjwg

ya dude, i can understand the limitations with this project, but you should really consider the mustang h-pipe with cats.

This is not the help/info I am looking for, it's apparent that most people are NOT understanding what I am trying to accomplish. Please. please, read the entire thread before you post about it. I know that I "can" get mustang h-pipe, I realize that. I am simply looking at doing something different than the norm.

Re: Let the questioning begin!

Reply #47 – February 03, 2005, 12:16:39 PM

Quote from: nirvanagod

Well, after digging around for about an hour I dug this little nugget of joy out of the internets cold dead hands.

http://www.fulllineexhaust.com/Catalogs/data/4179.html

I don't necessarily think it's the high flow cat system i've been hunting for, but it is definatly an alternative to the Walker Exhaust part at the very least. Only prob is I think that Catco Converters may have gone outta business . I found 2 different links that should have put me directly at their site, but got domain underconstruction pages instead. Anyways I think it's kind odd that they list this part as a direct fit component for the 87-88 T-bird. Last I recall you have to change the headers to make it work. Either way, finding this just might be progress!

Maybe that h-pipe is for stock manifolds :dunno:

Re: Let the questioning begin!

Reply #48 – February 03, 2005, 12:22:07 PM

Quote from: cougarman

Maybe that h-pipe is for stock manifolds

That's what I was thinking, but I know I read that the bird/cougar manifolds need to be changed to the Mark VII ones in order for it to work. I'm just wondering if it's possible that maybe the 87-88 birds may already have the appropriate manifolds already installed. It's prolly a long shot but maybe a possibility.

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Reply #49 – February 03, 2005, 12:26:17 PM

No thunderbird or cougar was ever equipped with headers. Ever. Looking at the H-pipe I can't tell, but maybe it attaches to stock manifolds.

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Reply #50 – February 03, 2005, 12:26:35 PM

As far as I know the mark vii's all came with the Mustang shorty headers, so they would be different than the cast manifolds the Tbirds came with. :)

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Reply #51 – February 03, 2005, 12:28:31 PM

I looked at that last H-pipe that was posted and it does, indeed look different from a standard shorty header H-pipe. This may be the piece they used when the 88 cars got pseudo dual exhaust, maybe not. In any case, it's worth investigating to find out if it fits stock manifolds.

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Reply #52 – February 03, 2005, 12:32:52 PM

No the 88 didn't have an h-pipe, just a y-pipe and a goofy little pipe behind the convertor to convert to "dual" exhaust.

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Reply #53 – February 03, 2005, 12:34:55 PM

Quote from: Ifixyawata

No thunderbird or cougar was ever equipped with headers.

Quote from: Ifixyawata

This may be the piece they used when the 88 cars got pseudo dual exhaust, maybe not.

My bad, fixed that up, I keep switching between the 2 for some reason. As for the 88 model that yes is a Ypipe to Ypipe setup. Which I unfortunately have now. Both lincoln h-pipes I have found have pretty much been just that, h-pipes. I need to hunt down an older JC Whitney catalog or something and see if I can find that part.

Re: Let the questioning begin!

Reply #54 – February 03, 2005, 12:40:23 PM

Here's a diagram of the stock mark vii, doesn't really show much.

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Reply #55 – February 03, 2005, 12:43:59 PM

Yeah, that's where I spec'd my original setup I devised from. Well just the converter. If it comes down to it I may end up with that particular piece. But hopefully I can get my hands on the highflow version.

Re: Let the questioning begin!

Reply #56 – February 03, 2005, 12:45:24 PM

I'm just wondering if you want hi-flow converters on an h-pipe, why not just get a Mustang one??

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Reply #57 – February 03, 2005, 12:56:13 PM

Quote from: cougarman

I'm just wondering if you want hi-flow converters on an h-pipe, why not just get a Mustang one??

*Sigh*
The big reason for my not just breaking down and buying one is ease of installation to me. The mustang pipe is shorter that the mark one which would put me in a situation where i'm looking for longer intermediate pipes or coupling a couple of pipes together. With the lincoln pipe, i'd actually have to shorten my intermediate (from what I understand). This would make easier on me cause i'm more willing to measure 3 or 4 or more times and cut once instead of tacking on and adding unnecessary welds or s or clamps. It might seem like a backwards way of thinking but it makes sense to me. Ultimately i'd only be left withdeal with the tail pipes, which i'm still out to recess in regards to figuring out what to do with those.

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Reply #58 – February 03, 2005, 01:02:13 PM

Oh ok, I know when I had my '86 all I had to lenghten was the tailpipes. Somebody on here said they have Mac flow tubes, and they were longer. The difference in the middle is not very much, the biggest difference is the tailpipes, about 10" . :)

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Reply #59 – February 03, 2005, 01:03:25 PM

While the mustang pipe may be shorter than the mark one, with the addition of flowtubes from MAC, you'll need to do no additional lengthening. Even though I used an off-road H pipe on my car, it's the same length, and that, combined with those flowtubes put the end of the pipe that goes into the lers longer than I actually needed it. To get tails installed I'll probably have to have those pieces from MAC cut down some. I'm not sure if you want to use headers or stock manifolds, but the above is done with headers.

If I understand you right you want... Cheap, Emissions Legal dual exhaust that can be installed at home. I'd reccommend my setup (and have earlier in this thread) but 1.) it's not emissions legal and 2.) there are no stock tailpipes to fit, I'll need to have some made.