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And if someone's come to rape your wife, one bullet will take the ****er down, as will a pipe wrench in the side of the head. You don't need to pepper the block with a spray of bullets from an automatic rifle.

I haven't backtracked an inch. Go back and read my posts again, if you like. Every post I've made so far has been about assault weapons and carrying a concealed weapon off of your property. And nothing about banning guns outright. Try to quote me where I said otherwise, slappy. I have nothing against owning guns. I love moose meat. I just don't know how safe it is having random people pointing a device meant for mass murder to protect himself at people he feels threatened by. Our opinions obviously differ here. You seem to be the only one who can't grasp that I'm not going to agree with you. You're just going to have to deal with that, man.

I just don't know how safe it is having random people pointing a device meant for mass murder to protect himself at people he feels threatened by.

I have nothing against owning guns.

You seem to be the only one who can't grasp that I'm not going to agree with you. You're just going to have to deal with that, man.

The shocking thing is how, no matter how many times Carmen says he's not for the banning of all guns, you still turn around and say he's out to do just that. You just can't hear/read anyone else's contributions to the thread. It's amazing. You've decided what we're saying, despite what we do.

And banning concealed weapons and assault rifles does NOT lead to a ban on all guns. How do I know? I know because I live in a country that has done this, and look, there's still a hunting season. You can still hunt in the UK and in Australia (though you can't fox hunt in the UK anymore, due to conservation). We're allowed to own guns, and I'm thinking of getting one myself, since having my dogs attacked by animals three times in less than two years. Your extrapolation is false, and proven false. This isn't puppies Germany, which I know so many pro-gun advocates seem to think is the perfect model for gun control. Again, purely false. Who the hell would model themselves after the puppiess? I have feet. Hitler had feet too. GOD  IT, I'M A puppies! Ludicrous, right?

Why not? I haven't said anything to make you think I don't support gun ownership. You jumped to that conclusion all on your own. I just think gun ownership should be restricted. That doesn't mean the same thing you've made up your mind I'm saying. Assuming is the dangerous word there. And if someone's come to rape your wife, one bullet will take the ****er down, as will a pipe wrench in the side of the head. You don't need to pepper the block with a spray of bullets from an automatic rifle. shiznitty, shiznitty excuse to go dangerously overboard. I like the idea of using a shotgun (in the states) to protect your home, because at least now you're only risking the lives of those inside your own home.

And if someone's come to rape your wife, one bullet will take the ****er down, as will a pipe wrench in the side of the head. You don't need to pepper the block with a spray of bullets from an automatic rifle. shiznitty, shiznitty excuse to go dangerously overboard.

I kinda think of it as the "pit bull syndrome". I grant you that there are vicious pit bulls in this world...but yet, I willingly chose to become the owner of two of them.
Not for some status symbol, or because i'm a drug dealer (i'm not, just an example.) but because I wanted them. I keep them locked up in a huge shed out of the weather where nobody can wander up to them..not that they'd be likely to bite, they're very friendly to people...but I still don't let strangers and very few other people near them...and not kids...because I'm the one responsible. They've never bitten anything but dog food and the tennis balls i throw for them...and it's going to stay that way, just like I keep my guns secured out of reach of most people.

But using that buttstuffogy....would you turn your 16 year old, newly licensed driver loose in a 1500 horsepower drag car...I grant you, not each and every one could or would handle it safely...same as a firearm. Hell, most adults couldn't either...I seriously doubt I could, for that matter.

Not much difference in that regard, in that a car can kill as quickly or accidentally (or purposefully, even) as a bullet...in the hands of the wrong people, or the uneducated..well...you know as well as I where that can go.

I wasn't implying that the "assault" rifles be banned, but that they merely have no justifiable (to me anyways) place in hunting.

The average citizen, in trying to defend his own home against sudden and unannounced intruers is usually more of a menace to family members than the intruders themselves.

It's all moot...buy an alarm system, and don't use the "self defense" play as ammo (no pun intended) in this conversation of who should be allowed what guns and why discussion, because sir, that just is a piss-poor reason to own a firearm.
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Try to quote me where I said otherwise, slappy. I have nothing against owning guns.

I'm showing support of removing concealed weapons from the hands of average citizens. Civilians.

And I'm all for getting rid of the guns for swords.

Personally, I think concealed guns are a huge part of the problem the US has with gun crimes.

 I just will never get the entire gun culture, when it comes to carrying one with you on a daily basis. It freaks me out to think of it.

Besides, you can't argue with numbers. Countries with bans on assault rifles and concealed weapons have drastically lower rates of gun crimes.

wow,, there is another one who thinks self defense is a piss poor reason to own a fire arm.  I just cant seem to get my head around that one

I know my knowledge of guns themselves is lacking, and the use of them, and I'm taking these points into consideration.
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