2.3L timing... Reply #15 – November 02, 2008, 02:35:28 PM Have you ever heard of searching? you know type what you are looking for in the search field and hit enter! its that easy. But for those of you that have to have it hand fed to you here we go! LOL First you locate the wire to the TPS and use some stick pins or something like that to get to the wires not the insulation. Then I do believe that it is the Green and black wires. Set you volt meter to VOLTS and with the key on check the voltage at the green and black wires. should be set just a hair under 1volt. To adjust it you loosen the screws that hold the TPS onto the throttle body and you rotate it to get the voltage in the correct range! Then tighten those screws back down. Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #16 – November 02, 2008, 05:35:35 PM yeah my tps is at .04 volts.... nowhere near 1 volt or .90I think it is shot Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #17 – November 02, 2008, 07:36:46 PM did you loosen the screws and rotate it. That is how you set it rotate it so it is setting at .97volts. then thighten the screws back down so it doesn't rotate out of spot. Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #18 – November 03, 2008, 03:23:24 AM no matter rotation it sits @ .04 and 4.75 Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #19 – November 03, 2008, 03:23:53 AM which wire do i probe? green or orange? Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #20 – November 03, 2008, 08:09:34 AM Green and black. Those are the ones you want. While your here might as well check of this link. http://www.turboford.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000055#000000 Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #21 – November 03, 2008, 09:10:36 PM got a question again... got TPS set @ .95 volts.... now im back to timing... i figure a pretty much stock TC with a worn cam should idle a little higher than base... say 1k or 1100 RPM's.. I set the timing to TDC.. fired her up.. let her warm up... set base idle as best i could... then turned dizzy till 15BTDC... Connected spout... now my bird has an issue with starting... i have to crank and pump gas to get her to start.. and my alternator belt is slipping off...(im assuming thats because i dont have power steering belt on so im thinking that is engine wobble). But without accessory belts the bird fires fine.. underload she hesitates....When I reconnect SPOUT where should timing go? mine goes to about 20BTDC. is that normal? Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #22 – November 04, 2008, 12:30:43 AM Factory specs with the pill/spout connector disconnected is 10Btdc for 5spd and 8Btdc for autos. With the spout/pill connector plugged in the timing at idle should be about 15-20Btdc. But your Spout in timing is dependent on you spout out timing. From my experience I suggest more Boost less timing. Dial in the timing stock and turn the boost up until you feel the Knock sensor effecting your timing during max boost. Then you can dial it back until the the timing retard is gone from the knock sensor. Some people like to kick the timing up a degree or two but more boost nets more power than more timing. Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #24 – November 04, 2008, 12:50:12 PM Quote from: 87TurboBird;241602how do i turn the boost up?Not even something for you to even worry about until you get it running right.Honestly. Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #25 – November 05, 2008, 12:26:10 PM ok.. got timing all set everything buttoned up... idles is at 1k.. sounds beautiful...Back out to go for a test drive.. no power.... max speed maybe 15mph if im lucky.... Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #26 – November 05, 2008, 04:00:20 PM Maybe you have an exhaust restriction. Drop the down pipe and got for another run if you power is there then you have a blockage in the exhaust Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #27 – November 06, 2008, 01:44:22 AM no exhaust blockage... it has to be in the motor.. not a vacspooge leak... timing is 10BTDc. cam is on cam marks. Dizzy @ 1, TPS @ .94 volts closed. Idle screw about 1/3 of the way in. Could a water pump do it? just noticed today that i am leaking crazily around the water pump. could a loose water pump cause a pulley wobble that drains power? i think the water pump bolts came a little loose doing the headgasket. it is only leaking around the formagasket not from the weep hole.Or I had one other Idea... what about the knock sensor. If i got the wiring wrong between the oil pump and the knock sensor would that do it? the 1 wire plugs for both were on the same harness.Without belts the car sounds and seems to run terrific. but as soon as i engage my transmission the power is gone... its kinda wierd. Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #28 – November 06, 2008, 09:15:37 PM A leaky water pump is not good tighten that thing down. and yes if the water pump is wobbly that could put extra drag on things. Knock sensor oil sensor wires could get mixed of the connectors have been removed. And yes if the knock sensor was wired wrong that would just cut timing as much as it could until it detected no knock. If your sending wrong signal then it see knock all the time. That is if that is possible thinking the knock sensor has a two wire type plug. The wire color for the early models it yellow with red stripe. I'm not 100% on the new model wires colors. The water temp sender and the oil pressure are both the same one wire right angle push on plugs. Quote Selected
2.3L timing... Reply #29 – November 06, 2008, 10:52:02 PM if you look at the drivers sife of the head... there is an oil pump.. that is the type of wire connector i am talking about. Quote Selected
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