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Reply #135 – November 08, 2008, 02:07:09 PM

then it should have never been up for question and certainly shouldnt have been a 5-4(i believe, close to 50/50) vote.

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Reply #136 – November 08, 2008, 03:14:31 PM

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Because that's how it generally starts if left unchecked....
Beware the cult of personality....

Anyway -- what's done is done.

Let Our President Elect do what he can in conjunction with the Senate, the House and the Supreme Court.

I hope good comes from the next 4 years.

Well that solves the problem then. Just keep it in check, like we do in Canada, and many other Democratic Capitalist nations around the world do when they adopt Socialist policies. Crisis avoided.

Naming the USSR and China as the only Socialist examples is a case of ignorance. Socialism is a very broad concept, and can have, (and typically has), a place in any type of society.

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Reply #137 – November 08, 2008, 03:35:34 PM

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Well that solves the problem then. Just keep it in check, like we do in Canada, and many other Democratic Capitalist nations around the world do when they adopt Socialist policies. Crisis avoided.

Naming the USSR and China as the only Socialist examples is a case of ignorance. Socialism is a very broad concept, and can have, (and typically has), a place in any type of society.

not if you like your freedom, and idealoglies our founders fought for. i personally have a problem with g on the constitution, bill of rights and amendments.

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Reply #138 – November 08, 2008, 03:42:28 PM

Bush had no problem taking rights away and ping on the Constitution.

Hypocrites make me belly laugh!

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Reply #139 – November 08, 2008, 03:46:26 PM

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I learned more about which pistol was the best overall compromise (size, stoppping power, action, reliability etc.) from this site than anywhere else since the issue was discussed intelligently without all the fake bravado that plagues the more right-leaning discussions

I dig my Glock :hick:

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Well that solves the problem then. Just keep it in check

I think one of the fears is that it may not be kept in check with the Democratic majority in the house and the Senate...

Meh....speculation at this point.

Someone said they were far more interested in the local stuff concerning them and that it has more impact on the life of the individual citizen and more immediately. I tend to agree with that. State and Federal governments lay down the guidelines while local governments fine tune it for that specific set of scenarios and environments -- in the realm of domestic policy, anyway.

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Reply #140 – November 08, 2008, 04:18:30 PM

Quote from: V8Demon;242199

I dig my Glock :hick:

uh-huh

Glock Operation Illustrated

:bowdown:

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Reply #141 – November 08, 2008, 04:35:23 PM

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Bush had no problem taking rights away and ping on the Constitution.

Hypocrites make me belly laugh!

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LOL, you think he was just wait and see what your self ritious, d bag masiah Obama is going to do to it. again, ill be saying i told you so.

no hipocracy here, i never supported bush. he was a joke. heck, untill a few years ago wasnt concerned with politics at all. politicians arae generally liars and scumbags. thats part of why i believe in smaller and more locallised government.

bottom line here, everyone here is going to have their own opinion and on a personal level, im not going to think less of anybody for it. the whole current system sucks and were all in the same big pile here reguardless. i dont see it getting better because of him or his cabinet. unless obama makes some meracles happen im never going to buy into him. i am not comfortable with him on any level weather it be his political policies or his so called beliefs. i do belive you are who you associate yourself with and he has some real scumbags close to him. i belive he has his own agenda and can not be trusted. maybe in naieve. i think its his followers that are naieve. he is going to be our next presidant and so be it.

mission accomplished, the ultimate quintessential affermative action hire.

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Reply #142 – November 08, 2008, 04:42:39 PM

Why does a Socialist policy have to piss on your constitution? You're just showing us over and over that you have no idea what Socialism really is, and that you're just repeating what you've heard from other people that don't understand Socialism. Seriously, your country is riddled with Socialism as it is, you just choose not to see this.

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Reply #143 – November 08, 2008, 04:51:14 PM

Quote from: shame302;242204

...mission accomplished, the ultimate quintessential affermative action hire.

...and this, my friend, is why your opinion has no weight with me.

Oh, and on the socialist meme - this from McCain's own campaign chief strategist - Steve Schmidt:

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McCain Campaign Autopsy
by Ana Marie pen 15s

Chief strategist Steve Schmidt talks about the moment—back in September—when he knew McCain was doomed. Plus, his surprising view on gay marriage, and more scoop on leaks.
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Looking forward, Schmidt sees the need for a wholesale reinvention of the party: “The party in the Northeast is all but extinct; the party on the West Coast is all but extinct...there has to be a message and a vision that is compelling to people in order for them to come back and to give consideration to the Republican Party again.”

Toward the end of this election cycle, it seemed to many that Schmidt and the McCain campaign were reverting to themes that seemed almost antique: red-baiting taunts of “socialism,” as well as appeals to the “real America.” But today, Schmidt rejected those tactics as blueprints for the future: “The Republican Party wants to, needs to, be able to represent, you know, not only conservatives, but centrists as well. And the party that controls the center is the party that controls the American electorate.”

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Even the Republican leadership is smarter than it's followers.

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Reply #144 – November 08, 2008, 05:25:59 PM

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Why does a Socialist policy have to piss on your constitution? You're just showing us over and over that you have no idea what Socialism really is, and that you're just repeating what you've heard from other people that don't understand Socialism. Seriously, your country is riddled with Socialism as it is

LOL...this perhaps being so, doesnt make it right. nowhere did i say it hadnt existed. i belive we will now have the most socialist, marxist prez to date, 2nd to none.

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McCain Campaign Autopsy
by Ana Marie pen 15s

Chief strategist Steve Schmidt talks about the moment—back in September—when he knew McCain was doomed. Plus, his surprising view on gay marriage, and more scoop on leaks.
...

Looking forward, Schmidt sees the need for a wholesale reinvention of the party: “The party in the Northeast is all but extinct; the party on the West Coast is all but extinct...there has to be a message and a vision that is compelling to people in order for them to come back and to give consideration to the Republican Party again.”

Toward the end of this election cycle, it seemed to many that Schmidt and the McCain campaign were reverting to themes that seemed almost antique: red-baiting taunts of “socialism,” as well as appeals to the “real America.” But today, Schmidt rejected those tactics as blueprints for the future: “The Republican Party wants to, needs to, be able to represent, you know, not only conservatives, but centrists as well. And the party that controls the center is the party that controls the American electorate.”

has nothing to do with obama and much more on how damaged the party was by our current president. your source?

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Reply #145 – November 08, 2008, 05:48:44 PM

alright, put it this way. are you telling me that you deny that obama is a socialist, or are you telling me that socialism is okay and i shouldnt worry about it?

so far the only reason you mentioned you were for him was because he was going to give you 1100 bucks.

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Reply #146 – November 08, 2008, 05:55:41 PM

Anybody who thinks Obama is a socialist has there head up their ass or is somehow messing with us just to start trouble. Nobody with an ounce of common sense believes that - not even McCain's people as I have shown.

Any questions?

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Reply #147 – November 08, 2008, 05:58:18 PM

Quote from: Cougar5.0;242203

uh-huh

Glock Operation Illustrated

:bowdown:

BAH!!! Little Bullets!:hick:

I have this one: http://www.genitron.com/HandgunDB/nfdetails.asp?ID=697

Best of all is it accepts the 13 round magazines as well.

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“The party in the Northeast is all but extinct; the party on the West Coast is all but extinct...there has to be a message and a vision that is compelling to people in order for them to come back and to give consideration to the Republican Party again.”

Not for nothing, but he's saying something we all already know....

The way things are going, the Republican party will be a non-competitor in 30 years.....Look at the beating it's taken in the past 20....

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Reply #148 – November 08, 2008, 06:01:20 PM

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Anybody who thinks Obama is a socialist has there head up their ass or is somehow messing with us just to start trouble. Nobody with an ounce of common sense believes that - not even McCain's people as I have shown.

i dissagree. i guess we need to leave it there. all thats left is name calling. i think your just as foolish as you think i am on this subject. Anybody who doesnt think Obama is a socialist has there head up their ass.

i hope you get your 1100, and i hope it was worth it.

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The way things are going, the Republican party will be a non-competitor in 30 years.....Look at the beating it's taken in the past 20....

one reason republicans are probably better off mccain lost.

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Reply #149 – November 08, 2008, 06:08:33 PM

When Republicans cut taxes, it's called economic stimulous. When Democrats cut taxes, it's called socialism and "a giveaway". Let me grab my head quickly before it spins completely off. :hick:

V8:

Oh, I didn't say I got the 23, it's just a nice simulation to view - loved it.