question about this job posting on monster March 04, 2005, 11:29:13 AM strolling through the daily events of job hunting,i came across this job and got curious of its content.Is this statement legal?""""Requires some overnight travel (paid expenses). Very active job requiring applicant to be in good physical condition. Requires climbing high ladders, lifting 25-50 lbs, and extensive walking. Excellent driving record a must. We screen for illegal drugs, criminal background, and driving records points. The company has policies that reflect a ZERO tolerance for illegal drugs, alcohol, and tobacco products. """"job link http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=27859411&AVSDM=2005%2D03%2D03+16%3A21%3A34&Logo=1&q=travel&fn=553&sort=dt&vw=b&cy=US&brd=1,1862,1863 Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #1 – March 04, 2005, 11:35:16 AM It depends....If part of the job requirement entails strenous physical activity and the employer can show that this is indeed true then yes due to the fact that someone not in good physical condition may not be able to perform the tasks required. It almost sounds like they may even have some sort of physical testing involved. You raised my curiosity....What kind of employment is this and is there a link to a sight or anything like that? Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #2 – March 04, 2005, 11:40:16 AM C'mon Scott you know tobacco is disgusting! I don't know about anywere else but its like illegal to smoke in most places in ohio it seems. If you would be in primarily public places then maybe thats what they are getting at. Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #3 – March 04, 2005, 11:53:12 AM It's wierd how smoking is so looked down upon that it has become socially unacceptable, but drinking and driving (which kills a lot more people than cigarettes) is still not a big deal. People have a choice to start smoking... a car with a family in it does not have the choice of sharing the road with a drunk in a big beat up truck who will, in turn, hit thier car, killing all of them but come out fine himself because of this drunkenness./RantAnd yeah, I think they can tell you not to smoke. Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #4 – March 04, 2005, 11:54:31 AM You have what i have,, and there is the link to the company in the moster posting.I personally think they are not allowed to. Their posting says zero tollerance for tobacco products via a drug test. Kinda makes basic ultra lights in the box illegal. Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #5 – March 04, 2005, 12:05:02 PM Now... do they mean on the job? Or at all? This reminds me of the company firing those who smoke. I guess smoking does go against the values of a company called "Kleen Air" but still... Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #6 – March 04, 2005, 12:08:25 PM The company I work for has a zero tolerance tobacco policy, they have cheek swap test they use. :) Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #7 – March 04, 2005, 12:08:29 PM in massachusettes it is AGAINST THE LAW to smoke in ANY work place or any resturaunt. that goes for anywhere some one is employed. that means bars and clubs too. works for me though, im a non smoker Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #8 – March 04, 2005, 12:15:31 PM Quote from: CougarSEC'mon Scott you know tobacco is disgusting!you got that right,, no bout a doubt it anyway, i just called about the job. Im pretty sure ill see that posting re-worded a little. what have i done to stop smoking,,, started with salem menthol in 88. bad choicemoved to marlboro redsmoved to ultralight cheapest brandmoved to viginia slims,,,im secure with my manhood so dont laugh :flip: now im smoking a brand made in the Grover NC called CheyenneCheyenne Peach flavored little cigars as well as others*.79cents a pack*no nicotine*flavored*has a plesent smell left behind like popori or insense*predominatly natural tobacco with no additive.next step,, maybe stop or just smoke a pipe when i get to be an old giezerwhy?ive noticed smoking these that i tend to have a "nic" fit if i dont have a regular cig sooner or later. I keep a pack of ultra lights laying around so i can slowly work my way off nicotine. Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #9 – March 04, 2005, 12:22:20 PM thats why i never started smoking. i grew up with both my parrents smoking and trying to quit all the time. i never saw them mor miserable then when they were trying too quit. i guess its one of the toughest things too do. Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #10 – March 04, 2005, 12:51:48 PM It really depends on your state of mind as much as anything else. If you want to quit smoking then you can quit smoking. Most people try five to seven times before they are actually able to quit. The key is never to become dependent upon the nicotine in the first place. I can smoke one with my sister-in-law every once in a while and it doesn't bother me at all. Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #11 – March 04, 2005, 01:20:01 PM Quote from: IfixyawataIt's wierd how smoking is so looked down upon that it has become socially unacceptable, but drinking and driving (which kills a lot more people than cigarettes) is still not a big deal. People have a choice to start smoking... a car with a family in it does not have the choice of sharing the road with a drunk in a big beat up truck who will, in turn, hit thier car, killing all of them but come out fine himself because of this drunkenness./RantAnd yeah, I think they can tell you not to smoke.True. I don't like drunk drivers anymore than I like smoking. I don't dislike "smokers" I just don't like the smoke itself. It honestly flares my allergys up. When the guys at work start to smoke I have to stay away from them or I will get sick. Some days I can smoke a mini cigar and other days it makes me sick. :disappoin Number one thing is being around people who would rather buy a pack of ciggerettes or beer than buy gas or milk. That really ticks me off. I only buy beer if I have waaayy more than enough money to get through to the next check. And then I usualy don't buy it! Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #12 – March 04, 2005, 03:48:17 PM Scott, nicotine isn't a natural ingredient in Tobacco? Wow... I DID not know that. Even those little cigars make me nervous, though... "predominantly natural tobacco with some non-tobacco ingredients added." Did you have the dreaded blood cough while smoking Menthols? I've never experienced it in all my smoking experience (probably a total of 2 cartons in my life, as far as menthols go) but I managed to quit smoking all together before it became too hard to quit. Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #13 – March 04, 2005, 04:18:37 PM hearing my mom cough all the time wile I was growing up was enough for me to not wanna smoke Quote Selected
Re: question about this job posting on monster Reply #14 – March 04, 2005, 04:43:30 PM Quote from: IfixyawataScott, nicotine isn't a natural ingredient in Tobacco? Wow... I DID not know that. .and did you know about formaldehyde?,,, this and many reasons are why we gotta stop this .and here is a very very old blog (before blogs were discovered)about the filth in RJR and company about nicotine. Its a pretty old investigation and i did a paper on it in college. Smokers,,,,,,,,,,,,this will make you sickhttp://www.mcspotlight.org/beyond/abctranscript.html Quote Selected
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