news to me...

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news to me...

March 02, 2005, 01:59:11 AM

i just found out that the frpp 5.0 cobra intakes are made in china!

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Reply #1 – March 02, 2005, 10:31:26 AM

the US allows a 5 to 1 ratio of imports to exports respectively.

of our 1 export in the ratio, 85% of that will be ss and the remaining 25 respresent soy/recently cut fiber products.

so in a nutshell

China sends up pc's, plastic bowls, jewlery and trinkets and things.
The US ships out s metal, recycled goods and fibers.
you shop at wal-mart
Get the picture.

Say no to CAFTA

Look before you buy, give it a try.

A consulting agency, The Boston Group, recently met up with wal-mart in the china corp office to discuss actions to be taken on chineese companies couterfiting chineese made goods. (yes i did just say that). The boston group layed out a plan of attack and wal-mart finally agreed that the US rate to secure the lawyers was too expensive for thier f-ing six sigma green belt/black belt kiss a$$ ceo's.
Wal-marts solution,, -they decided it would be best to outsource this task to india and china for a 3:1 dollar savings.
we're done people.

Did you guys know that there was no companies left in the US (mexico or canada obviously) to supply the presidential inoguration (sp) with goodies like coffee cups, buttons, ink pens, jackets, and other free bee's. Yep,made in you know where.

if you go to the us army recruiter,, they will give you free stuff,, made in china.

the uniforms of our soldiers are not made in the us anymore.

People like my parents born in the 20's built what all of us on this board have today,, we just piss it away looking for CHEAP>

I want free trade with my northern and southern neighbor's mexico and Canada. I have to say that the quality of canada far exceeds any other import i know of. However,, canada has the same problems we in the US do.

BTW,, if you see any illegals running around your town,, dont forget to exercise your right to make a citizens arrest. Bring us our poor, and all that is nice but come here legally like i did.

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Reply #2 – March 02, 2005, 10:35:35 AM

Yeah I heard somewhere that if Wal Mart were a country it would be China's third largest trading partner.

So what's the solution Scott?

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Reply #3 – March 02, 2005, 10:38:28 AM

see previous post.

btw,, support your NY state DMV,, those folks have thier heads screwed on right! They are setting the example for all of us to follow. i have the Balls to do what they are doing now but im not positioned correctly to do what they have done.

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Reply #4 – March 02, 2005, 10:46:43 AM

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I want free trade with my northern and southern neighbor's

Isn't that what the North American Free Trade Agreement is about? And WTF does catching illegal immigrants have to do with buying chinese made goods? You can't tie those two together. If it wasn't so ed difficult and complicated to come here legally that you needed to hire a lawyer to help you do it then maybe we wouldn't have so many illegal immigrants. Seriously. If Mexico's second biggest source of income wasn't from money that immigrants send back to Mexico from the U.S. every year then maybe their own ed government wouldn't actually give them pointers on how to sneak across the border.

No, it is not our fault that they are coming here illegally. But it's not entirely theirs either. The fault lies with the governments of both countries allowing the situation to escalate to the level that it has.

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Reply #5 – March 02, 2005, 10:58:24 AM

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btw,, support your NY state DMV,, those folks have thier heads screwed on right! They are setting the example for all of us to follow. i have the Balls to do what they are doing now but im not positioned correctly to do what they have done.

What is my DMV doing?

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Reply #6 – March 02, 2005, 11:12:42 AM

jkirchman
"Isn't that what the North American Free Trade Agreement is about? "

I never said NAFTA................you did.
but since you brought up a diffferent subject,,
NO, Not completely or proportionally. Its main focal point was india/china with a pissed off mexico left behind with little options.

"And WTF does catching illegal immigrants have to do with buying chinese made goods? "

nothing, just another issue and your right on that whole topic except for....
"The fault lies with the governments of both countries allowing the situation to escalate to the level that it has."
its your and my fault for not commuincating to our leaders. The goverment has you so busy working two jobs and your spouse working two jobs that they pretty much have you trained to stay uniformed thus not being involved like we should. I have spoken to my senator "Byrd" many times (like over a dozen plus emails to him) venting my needs as a social security card carrying tax paying citizen with legal citizenship.

MDJ1281
"What is my DMV doing?"
I dont mean to be a smart a$$ but thats my point exactly,, being out of the know is pretty much in style today.

and last be certainly not least
food for thought anyone????http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txs/releases/September2004/040930-Remedy.htm

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Reply #7 – March 02, 2005, 11:40:32 AM

yep, sad fact, very few of the parts that we buy for our cars are actually made in the U.S. The only company that I can think of that is all U.S. made is Edelbrock. There are a couple other, but can't remember which right now. Even the Scat cranks, Eagle rods, and so forth are foreign made, as is all that Wells and GP Sorenson garbage. You want a REAL American car, you've got to go back to the muscle car era. Even then, it was North American made.

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Reply #8 – March 02, 2005, 01:56:57 PM

American made goods are few and far between these days but i dont see it as a huge problem. Trade and commerce are pillars of capitalism nescessary for the betterment of our and others econimies. I dont care where its made just that its high quality, beside how much do you think that sh#t would cost were it produced in the United States like 500 percent more. I dont give a let some chinaman make my for a dollar fifty an hour he can have that job, im not starving.

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Reply #9 – March 02, 2005, 05:11:11 PM

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American made goods are few and far between these days but i dont see it as a huge problem. Trade and commerce are pillars of capitalism nescessary for the betterment of our and others econimies. I dont care where its made just that its high quality, beside how much do you think that sh#t would cost were it produced in the United States like 500 percent more. I dont give a let some chinaman make my for a dollar fifty an hour he can have that job, im not starving.

and if you think immigrants are stealing your jobs, see maddox

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Reply #10 – March 02, 2005, 05:18:01 PM

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American made goods are few and far between these days but i dont see it as a huge problem.

You dont see that as any type of problem at any moment, anywhere anytime,,just plain dont care? :disappoin

to each is own. But if we make nothing at all , where does that leave us?
Maybe when that day comes,, there still wont be any problem. As long as i have my cougar thats all that matters. :giggle:,, yeah right!

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Reply #11 – March 02, 2005, 05:53:10 PM

Scott: I believe (but not 100% sure) that Canada has a trade surplus (we sell more stuff than we buy). I know the USA has a trade defecit, but I think Canada is still holding on to the surplus for now. We can manage a trade surplus because we have tons and tons of raw materials (lumber, oil, coal, water, energy, steel, etc) that a lot of countries don't have.

That being said, selling a lot of raw materials does not produce a lot of jobs. When we ship steel to puppiesan and have it come back in the form of a car we have essentially shipped car building jobs overseas.

Trade with other countries is necessary, but I believe that our governments could do a lot more to protect jobs over here (and still be fair to trading partners about it). For instance, we (Canada and US) should levy duties on imported products equal to the duties that the originating countries levy on our own goods. In other words, if puppiesan slaps a 50% tarriff onto the price of a new Cadillac we should slap a 50% tarriff on the price of a new Lexus. I bet you'd see a lot more Lexuses being built here, with the jobs going to North Americans. Also, since puppiesan has laws that make it difficult for North American manufacturers to sell their wares there we should match those laws here. We should limit foreign ownership of companies and factories just like puppiesan does.

Laws should also be created that make it illegal to do trade of any sort with companies that do not treat their employees fairly. Anything originating in a sweat shop or coming from countries with poor child labour and worker protection laws should be illegal. If the countries want to do business with us they should have to bring their labour standards up to ours. It could be done, just as it is currently illegal to buy stuff from Cuba (for you guys, anyway - we can buy Cohibas in our corner stores :D). Enacting laws like this would remove the advantage that many overseas companies have because they're getting what is essentially slave labour whiile domestic companies have to treat their emloyees right.

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Reply #12 – March 02, 2005, 10:39:56 PM

I agree with you Thunder Chicken. Problem is that all these rich guys that own these companies got lobbiest planted in washington pumping money into the White House. That's what gets the attention of the government. Not e-mails and letters. Until we find a way to put regular Joes back into power ie congress, senate and president, changes against people with money is tough.

I think we could start by banning campaign contributions. Each candidate gets a set amount to advertise with and thats it.
Next big thing for me is no elected government official should make more money than the national average income. If it's $32,000 then the president, congress, governors, senators, anybody, makes $32,000.
No health or pension benefits after your terms have been served for anyone who held any office for less than 20 years.
Call me crazy but being in political power should be a totally selfless job. Do it for the good of the country not a buddy or yourself, or some hidden agenda.
I don't know enough about politics to go after everything but I think these items would be a great start. Getting the right people in there would do the most good.

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Reply #13 – March 03, 2005, 12:40:28 AM

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Next big thing for me is no elected government official should make more money than the national average income. If it's $32,000 then the president, congress, governors, senators, anybody, makes $32,000.

i like that idea.

lol. i just think it's kinda ironic that us automakers leave and import automakers come in. a Toyota plant is right down the street from me. Honda, Hyundai, and Mercedez are all big employers in our state. i don't see a prob with some jobs going overseas, but some companies *cough* Wal-Mart *cough* are milking it.

just curious. does anyone check to see if their petro is home brew? XD

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Reply #14 – March 03, 2005, 01:52:17 AM

I also agree with thunder chicken while the current situation may not bother me i think that those would be great changes especially the traiff thing.