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Reply #45 –
It does look good with canyon red. It didn't look good with tan :hick: That canyon red is actually a really nice colour. Pity Ford replaced it with porno red, which was too bright for my taste.

The seats were cloth, and they were, as you describe, more "blue" than "raven" :D In fact the blue (soon to be black) Sport seats in my car could almost pass for raven (not 2 tone tho), since raven fades to blue anyway...
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

different color greys

Reply #46 –
Quote from: EricCoolCats;208785
Carm, were the seats in that LX cloth? They were all a lighter Smoke with the blue...I mean, Raven, surround. ;) The all leather seats were real dark, still two tone but much darker than the cloth seats.

I have seen a Raven top with a colored dash. In fact that's how my convertible was from the factory...Canyon Red interior with a Raven dash top. That was 1985-86 only, it seems. Really it didn't bother me much and actually looked pretty nice:



(Yes, I did go a little crazy with the Armor-All, thank you.) ;)


Door lock buttons from a Taurus/Sable?

'88 Mercury Cougar LS, 302, Project Car - "The Coug"
'83 Ford Thunderbird Heritage, 302, Summer Ride, - "The Bambi Killer"
'86 Chevrolet S10, Daily Driver -  "The Black Beater"

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Reply #47 –
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;208782
My interior will be all black as soon as the weather warms up enough to paint :D True black, though, not "almost black". I've already done the dash and door panels, gotta do the side panels and dye the soft stuff (seats, headliner, carpet) now...

I'm curious how this turns out, as I plan on doin the same, if I'm not satisfied with the smoke grey after the car gets painted.  Carm, did you use a paint with flexibilizer (or something like that)?
1987 TC

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Reply #48 –
I'm using interior trim paint for the hard stuff and spray dye for the soft stuff. The interior trim paint seems to stick well - it stayed on the dash while I was manhandling it to get it back in the car without suffering so much as a scratch
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

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Reply #49 –
Quote from: 302 PWR
Door lock buttons from a Taurus/Sable?

Yep, good eye. A little tpuppies and a plastic welder is all it takes.

different color greys

Reply #50 –
Here's an odd one for ya.
 
A guy I know has an 87 LX with 40,000 original miles. The car is red and MINT. He has the factory build sheet. His car has the following interior set up:
TC style seats in red leather
Full console
TC style door panels
Floor shifter
Full digi dash.

As far as all the information I have goes it was possible to order a LX in 87 with a full Tc style interior (minus the buttstuffog dash) but the sport got the base interior and seats with a console, floor shifter, and digi dash. Now in 88 you couldn't get a LX with a console or TC style seats or the raven interior (you could get an LX with a raven interior in 87). The Sport in 88 came with a TC style interior but the base door panels. Confused yet? :wtf:
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

different color greys

Reply #51 –
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;208760
This was definitely an 88 LX, as confirmed by the VIN (and buttstuffogue cluster). If I'm ever out that way again I'll have to take some pics. That's a big "if" though - I've pretty much given up the pursuit of buying it...

I thought only the Sport and TC had the buttstuffogue cluster???

Quote from: EricCoolCats;208762
Hmmm...The only ones I've ever heard about to be ALL Raven was the TC, and that may have been 1988 only.

I had three '87 TCs, all had a full raven cloth interior... This included the Silver TC Paul bought, others were black and white...

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Reply #52 –
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;209047
I thought only the Sport and TC had the buttstuffogue cluster???

I had thought that too, in fact I'd thought only the TC and '88 Sport got the TC style seats and floor shifter (87 Sport got "normal" seats with floor shifter). VIN said it was an '88 LX though, and the guy that has it said it was all original. Of course he thought the ground effects and TC hood were OE too, as he says they were on the car when his buddy bought it new, so God only knows what the real history on the car is. I can see a dealership installing ground effects and maybe a TC hood, but a whole interior?
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

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Reply #53 –
And I've seen a '69 Torino that had a "Y" code 390 2V engine(not avail in '69) per the VIN ID, but was sportin' a 351... On closer inspection I found the car had a swapped VIN plate from a '68...

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Reply #54 –
Quote from: EricCoolCats;208762
Hmmm....my understanding was that the full Raven interior (all black) was TC only, and that on the Sport and perhaps the LX, the Raven seats were available but otherwise the interior was mostly Smoke. For earlier turbo cars (1986) there was a Raven option, but it was more of a Smoke/Raven combo. The only ones I've ever heard about to be ALL Raven was the TC, and that may have been 1988 only. All cars with the Smoke interior should have had a Raven dash top though.


According to the 1988 book I have, the Articulated Seats were standard equipment and only available on Sport and Turbo Coupe.
It also states that the Sport seats had a Medium Grey color code of BG (cloth) or FG (leather), the Turbo Coupe’s Raven color codes were BH (cloth) and FH (leather).
Here is a picture of a 1988 TC cloth interior in Raven. The dash is indeed all Raven and not two-tone as on the other colors, but the seat and door panel inserts are a lighter grey color. 1987 Turbo Coupe interiors were the same as 1988.

Brent
:cougarsmily:
1985 Mercury Cougar XR-7 - 5-speed 
One of 1,246 built

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Reply #55 –
That is the exact interior that the 88 LX I'm talking about had (except it was automatic, of course). Same colour, same seats (except the LX had dual power), same door panels, same everything.
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

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Reply #56 –
Quote from: BCA
According to the 1988 book I have, the Articulated Seats were standard equipment and only available on Sport and Turbo Coupe.
It also states that the Sport seats had a Medium Grey color code of BG (cloth) or FG (leather), the Turbo Coupe’s Raven color codes were BH (cloth) and FH (leather).

So what are the actual differences in the seats between a Sport and a Turbo Coupe, besides the codes? They're both fully articulated with the same functions. They even look identical, especially in the cloth. I mean, they both fade to blue just the same, correct? ;)

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Reply #57 –
Quote from: EricCoolCats;209545
So what are the actual differences in the seats between a Sport and a Turbo Coupe, besides the codes? They're both fully articulated with the same functions. They even look identical, especially in the cloth. I mean, they both fade to blue just the same, correct? ;)


Besides the codes, I don't know that there is a difference. AFAIK, the seats are the same between the two models and it's just the trim codes that change.
I wonder though if the seats (and the material) are actually different. Could it be that the Medium Grey for the Sport and the Raven for the Turbo Coupe are close enough that Ford just used the same exact seats for both interiors? It sure would make sense for simplifying things on the assembly line.
I don't have any good photos of a nice clean '88 Sport interior to compare though.

Brent
:cougarsmily:
1985 Mercury Cougar XR-7 - 5-speed 
One of 1,246 built

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Reply #58 –
I found a Medium Grey '88 Sport on Cardomain and if you look past the typical fading to blue of the Charcoal fabric, it looks convincing to me that Ford used the same seats (and material) in both cars.

Brent
:cougarsmily:
1985 Mercury Cougar XR-7 - 5-speed 
One of 1,246 built

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Reply #59 –
Quote from: EricCoolCats;206756
Generally, yes, but there have been some exceptions. I believe 1985 was the oddball year, with some solid colored dashes. In 1986 they theoretically all went two-tone and that basically continued through 1988. I have seen lots of examples of solid-colored dashes though, mostly in Smoke Grey but sometimes in Canyon or Porno Red also. It seems there was no rhyme or reason with that as well. My dealer books outline what color was supposed to go where. That doesn't mean they all were like that, though.


Just an observation, all of my Charcoal/Raven interiors had solid Raven (the dark gray) dashboards (86, 87, 88 TC's) and all of my Shadow Blue interiors had solid Shadow Blue dashboards (87 and 88 TC's, 87 Sport).

All of my Scarlet Red (porno red) interiors had the 2-tone dash with the darker color on top (87 and 88 TC's, 88 Cougar LS). Jon's 87 TC (Gold on tan) has the tan TC interior, and it's dash has a brown top.

Basically, I think the dark colors (Raven, Shadow Blue) didn't need the 2-tone and stuck with a solid dash throughout.