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fabricating rear lower control arms

Anyone have any info or experience? I'm looking to make my own, this is for an 88 t-bird turbo coupe, so they are a little longer than a mustang piece. I have converted my rear suspension to coil-over, so I don't need spring perches or sway bar attachments, just a rod end on one side and a poly bushing on the other. Wondering where to find the ends and which ones exactly to use?
Something like this:

http://www.cheperformance.com/cartgenie/prodInfo.asp?pid=279&cid=9

Trying to save a few bucks, and I take pride in making my own pieces

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #1
can I see some pics of your coil over kit I want to do this mod baaad!!!!  sorry I don't have any info to trade
1986 T-bird
347 stroker motor
185 AFR Heads
TrickFlow cam 224/232-542/563
Victor Jr. intake CNC ported
Quickfuel Holley 800 cfm
Hooker 1-3/4 long tubes
Custom built AOD
B&M 3000 stall
8.8 w/4.30 gears
UPR K-member,A-Arms,and coil-overs
UPR upper/lower control arms
Strange shocks/struts
26x10x15 M/T slicks
11.48@119.27
(coming soon Tremec 3550)
The Finished Product
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/03grinnie/T-bird/

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #2
I've been slacking and haven't got out to my shop to get any new pics yet, the only one I have is of the front wheel.
http://picasaweb.google.com/horton678/TurboCoupeStuff/photo#5156551486640620562
 You can see using the Griggs K-member and A-arms how far it pushes the wheel forward in the wheel well.  Granted this may change a little once everything is back together and aligned.  It's not exactly a coil-over kit either, just a set of koni DA struts with 350 lb springs in front and koni SA shocks with 250 lb springs in the rear.
As soon as I get more pics I'll post them.

Rear Control Arms

Reply #3
I have looked around and I have decided to purchase some Mustang uppers and lowers, then have them modified to fit my cougar.  I am getting the mustang arms cheap.  My fabricator uses a TIG welder and is very skilled at custom fabrication.  CHE makes some inexpensive control arms if you decide to save some time.
Blueprinted 306, Thumper ported Canfield 195's, TLSR Camshaft, custom motor mounts, Parker funnelweb, Pro Systems Carburetor, Tremec 3550 II, 4.30 gears, Moser Axles, Team Z custom suspension with upper relocation brackets and anti roll bar.  At the track I run M/T 26/10's on Weld Star rims.

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #4
Are the cougars rear set up different from the birds because I bought hotchkis lowers and Jegs uppers for a mustang and they fit with no modification.That was like the only  mustang part that fit without having to modify it to fit, Ford makes this spit too darn hard for us.:hick: :punchballs:
1986 T-bird
347 stroker motor
185 AFR Heads
TrickFlow cam 224/232-542/563
Victor Jr. intake CNC ported
Quickfuel Holley 800 cfm
Hooker 1-3/4 long tubes
Custom built AOD
B&M 3000 stall
8.8 w/4.30 gears
UPR K-member,A-Arms,and coil-overs
UPR upper/lower control arms
Strange shocks/struts
26x10x15 M/T slicks
11.48@119.27
(coming soon Tremec 3550)
The Finished Product
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/03grinnie/T-bird/

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #5
As mentioned dozens of times before, Tbird/Cougar rear control arms are longer than the Mustang ones.

The lowers are 1/2" longer and the uppers are 1-1/8" longer....
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #6
cheperformance.com sell tubular upper and lower rear control arms for cheap.
Awesome quality and full hardware.

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #7
Quote from: Chuck W;200857
As mentioned dozens of times before, Tbird/Cougar rear control arms are longer than the Mustang ones.

The lowers are 1/2" longer and the uppers are 1-1/8" longer....


thanks, but I asked if the cougar was different then the bird and also sorry I have not been a member since 2004 :shakeass: chuck you must be in customer service lol.:D
1986 T-bird
347 stroker motor
185 AFR Heads
TrickFlow cam 224/232-542/563
Victor Jr. intake CNC ported
Quickfuel Holley 800 cfm
Hooker 1-3/4 long tubes
Custom built AOD
B&M 3000 stall
8.8 w/4.30 gears
UPR K-member,A-Arms,and coil-overs
UPR upper/lower control arms
Strange shocks/struts
26x10x15 M/T slicks
11.48@119.27
(coming soon Tremec 3550)
The Finished Product
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/03grinnie/T-bird/

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #8
you should be able to get the arts to do this from a hardware store. or http://www.speedwaymotors.com sells the swedge tubes and fittings to do tubular suspension for late models you should be able to convert this over to your need.

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #9
Quote from: 347Thunder;200907
thanks, but I asked if the cougar was different then the bird and also sorry I have not been a member since 2004 :shakeass: chuck you must be in customer service lol.:D


And I answered your question, if you could put 2 and 2 together.

I never said anything about Mustang ones not bolting in...but your pinion angle would then be all to pen 15 due to the different lengths.

I could have told you to just use the search function...now THAT is customer service. 

Oh, and I've been a member since '99....... :p
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #10
:p
1986 T-bird
347 stroker motor
185 AFR Heads
TrickFlow cam 224/232-542/563
Victor Jr. intake CNC ported
Quickfuel Holley 800 cfm
Hooker 1-3/4 long tubes
Custom built AOD
B&M 3000 stall
8.8 w/4.30 gears
UPR K-member,A-Arms,and coil-overs
UPR upper/lower control arms
Strange shocks/struts
26x10x15 M/T slicks
11.48@119.27
(coming soon Tremec 3550)
The Finished Product
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/03grinnie/T-bird/

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #11
I made my own control arms for my car from scratch but I can't seem to find the pictures of them but all I did was make a simple fixture so my new conrol arms were the same length as the factory ones and used dom tubing with 1/4" wall thickness which was quite overkill but they do the job. I used spherical bearings on both ends so there is no binding at all when the axle is articulating but there is some road noise transfered into the car but I don't mind. I had everything tig welded at work and had them powder coated siver. The spherical bearings were purchased from here http://www.stockcarproducts.com/susp3.htm
After installing these all my wheel hop  was eliminated.

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #12
Quote from: Chuck W;200977
Oh, and I've been a member since '99....... :p

:pics-stfu:
 
;)
:birdsmily:   Objects In Mirror Appear to be Loosing  :birdsmily:

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #13
I don't get it.  You will lay out the cash for the Griggs front but will not buy their LCA's for the rear?  Talk about reinventing the wheel but I guess I can understand wanting to build them yourself.  I just get tired of fabricating all the stuff for my 83 so I take advantage of parts someone else has already engineered.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

fabricating rear lower control arms

Reply #14
I've got the CHE's lowers.  They went in great and are high quality. 

I haven't moved them to the new bird yet.  So if you need measurements PM me and I'll take them for you.
84 TC 302 -5.0L/t5/7.5 locking rear and a 3.45 gear, Edelbrock Intake, Aluminum Heads, Edlebrock 65mm Throttlebody, Edlebrock Cam, 24lb injectors & MAS Air Sensor calibrated via chip,  BBK headers, Catback H pipe, Magnaflow lers :evilgrin:
:pics-stfu:

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