Loud lers?

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Reply #15 – January 08, 2008, 04:22:06 PM

This may help i got it from a miata forum (go figure, but some of those guys actually put 302s in their miatas)

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This list from article gives some info on loudness and horsepower for various brands but the test bed was a ford 302 so it may not apply.

LER SHOOTOUT:

Results based on 5.0 Mustang Magazine December 2002 issue (page 55). Test car is a ’90 Coupe with 370 HP and 11 second potential. A number of 66 pulls were made to compile this information. Where does your ler stack up?

The results in HP order:

1.Flowtech Warlock (open) 374.2 hp/ 333.1 tq
2.Bassani Real Street 373.7 hp/ 333.8 tq
3.Hooker Maxflow 373.5 hp/ 333 tq
4.Borla XS 373.3 hp/ 332.6 tq
5.Magnaflow 372.8 / 332.5 tq
6.MAC 372.3 hp / 331.5 tq
7.Flowtech Afterburner 372.3 hp/ 330.1 tq
8.Hooker Aerochamber 372.1 hp/ 330.4 tq
9.Bassani 372 hp/ 333.5 tq
10.Spintech 371.6 hp/ 332.2 tq
11.Edelbrock Performer RPM 370.9 hp / 331.3 tq
12.Borla XR1 370 hp/ 334 tq
13.Flowtech Terminator 369.5 hp / 331.3 tq
14.Dynomax Ultra Flo 369.4 / 333.2 tq
15.Flowmaster 369.4 hp / 331.8 tq
16.Flowtech Warlock 366.3 hp / 325.3 tq
17.No s 365.2 hp / 330.1 tq

Sound Off in Quietest to Loudest (Decibels):

1.Borla XS, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 110db at WOT.
2.Hooker Maxflow, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
3.Magnaflow, 82db at idle, 91 at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
4.Flowmaster, 82db at idle, 93 at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
5.Flowtech Warlock, 83db at idle, 92 at 2,000 rpm, 112db at WOT.
6.Dynomax UltraFlo, 83db at idle, 94 at 2,000 rpm, 113db at WOT.
7.Borla XR1, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
8.Bassani Street, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
9.Edelbrock RPM, 84db at idle, 93db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
10.Bassani Real Street, 84db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
11.Flowtech Afterburner, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
12.Flowtech Terminator, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
13.Hooker Aerochamber, 87db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
14.SpinTech, 87db at idle, 97db at 2,000 rpm, 116db at WOT.
15.MAC, 87db at idle, 98db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
16.No ler, 91db at idle, 103db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).

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Reply #16 – January 08, 2008, 04:46:37 PM

I love the way the Magnaflows sound on my 87. I'd buy those again in a heartbeat.

I think your car sounds great in that vid. Hell, you've got me thinking about getting an off road H-Pipe (again).

BTW, this is off topic but what rpm does your XE266 kick in at?

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Reply #17 – January 08, 2008, 04:58:27 PM

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The results in HP order:

1.Flowtech Warlock (open) 374.2 hp/ 333.1 tq
2.Bassani Real Street 373.7 hp/ 333.8 tq
3.Hooker Maxflow 373.5 hp/ 333 tq
4.Borla XS 373.3 hp/ 332.6 tq
5.Magnaflow 372.8 / 332.5 tq
6.MAC 372.3 hp / 331.5 tq
7.Flowtech Afterburner 372.3 hp/ 330.1 tq
8.Hooker Aerochamber 372.1 hp/ 330.4 tq
9.Bassani 372 hp/ 333.5 tq
10.Spintech 371.6 hp/ 332.2 tq
11.Edelbrock Performer RPM 370.9 hp / 331.3 tq
12.Borla XR1 370 hp/ 334 tq
13.Flowtech Terminator 369.5 hp / 331.3 tq
14.Dynomax Ultra Flo 369.4 / 333.2 tq
15.Flowmaster 369.4 hp / 331.8 tq
16.Flowtech Warlock 366.3 hp / 325.3 tq
17.No s 365.2 hp / 330.1 tq

Sound Off in Quietest to Loudest (Decibels):

1.Borla XS, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 110db at WOT.
2.Hooker Maxflow, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
3.Magnaflow, 82db at idle, 91 at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
4.Flowmaster, 82db at idle, 93 at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
5.Flowtech Warlock, 83db at idle, 92 at 2,000 rpm, 112db at WOT.
6.Dynomax UltraFlo, 83db at idle, 94 at 2,000 rpm, 113db at WOT.
7.Borla XR1, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
8.Bassani Street, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
9.Edelbrock RPM, 84db at idle, 93db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
10.Bassani Real Street, 84db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
11.Flowtech Afterburner, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
12.Flowtech Terminator, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
13.Hooker Aerochamber, 87db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
14.SpinTech, 87db at idle, 97db at 2,000 rpm, 116db at WOT.
15.MAC, 87db at idle, 98db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
16.No ler, 91db at idle, 103db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).

HP #'s mean nothing if other things in the exhaust system are changed to accomodate certain lers. I've never seen the article so I couln't tell if this test holds any substance. More info is needed. Header type and size, pipe diameter size, collector length and diameter..... I'm sure different exhaust setups will affect ler ouptput and which ones output the most as well.
If the rest of the exhaust system was left unchanged for each run on these particular tests, it would seem the exhaust system was optimized to be used with a ler and not wihout as evidenced by no ler showing the lowest HP rating.

Show me how many CFM's a ler is capable of flowing on a flow bench with no other piping involved. It would convince me a little more than these numbers without how they came upon them.

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Reply #18 – January 08, 2008, 05:14:53 PM

i think they used a stock 302 mustang. all that was changed on the car was the lers.

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Reply #19 – January 08, 2008, 11:20:10 PM

Quote from: Dogcharmer;196515

BTW, this is off topic but what rpm does your XE266 kick in at?

Actually it's a Magnum 266HR

The cam kicks in at about 2,000 rpm and pulls like a mofookie up to the 5,000 rpm shift point. Really it doesn't feel like power drops off untill it's in 3rd gear over 5,000 rpms with my foot to the floor;) Cam has an operating range of 1,200-5,200 rpm.

You can hear the cam in my car a bit at idle though can't you?;)

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Reply #20 – January 08, 2008, 11:32:07 PM

So what stock 5.0 Mustang puts out 370 HP?

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Reply #21 – January 08, 2008, 11:58:46 PM

Quote from: thunderjet302;196600

Actually it's a Magnum 266HR The cam kicks in at about 2,000 rpm and pulls like a mofookie up to the 5,000 rpm shift point. Really it doesn't feel like power drops off untill it's in 3rd gear over 5,000 rpms with my foot to the floor;) Cam has an operating range of 1,200-5,200 rpm.

You can hear the cam in my car a bit at idle though can't you?;)

Nice!

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Reply #22 – January 09, 2008, 12:12:18 AM

Quote from: V8Demon;196605

So what stock 5.0 Mustang puts out 370 HP?

hmmm check mate sir, i didnt even read them i just copied and pasted and went from word of mouth. but its the same car, prolly with the goodies to make 370.

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Reply #23 – January 09, 2008, 12:40:05 AM

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but its the same car, prolly with the goodies to make 370.

Yes, but what exhaust components besides the lers were changed from dyno run to dyno run? Some lers are built specifically for certain h/x-pipes and cannot be used with other systems. One would hope the lers use for this test could all bolt up to the same piping and that this was in fact done. Until I know for sure, I'll remain skeptical.

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Reply #24 – January 09, 2008, 12:42:46 AM

i just say be skeptical, but it does kind of give you an idea of the performance. an *IDEA* of how they are.

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Reply #25 – January 09, 2008, 07:10:21 AM

no s took last place

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Reply #26 – January 09, 2008, 08:07:00 AM

I see they listed the spin tech lers. I have always been curious about them.

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Reply #27 – January 13, 2008, 08:06:47 PM

how about spiral flows.

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Reply #28 – January 13, 2008, 08:11:12 PM

Sorry to hijack.....I just sent out an e-mail to se if these http://www.stainlessworks.net/cart/product_info.php?cPath=380_316_403_421&products_id=1432&osCsid=e799740318504a9b3614ad43ac294d63 will clear an AOD, and if so whether or not they need modification to do so.

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Reply #29 – January 14, 2008, 12:15:37 PM

slp loud mouths sound freaking INSANE on 5.0's.
Seen one on dyno with them at a local mustang shop. Holy shiznit it was awesome!