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Mass Air question.....

Reply #30
Quote from: V8Demon;186952
# of cylinders has nothing to do with the sensor.  It's injector size.  The Taurus sensor will work with your 19's Vin, but not your 24's.  What size injectors do SuperCoupes have?  24's or 30's?  I can't remember.

Don't know a thing about Taurus', but I do know the '93 Cobra MAF cal'd for 24lb inj is unique... It can only be used with the Cobra EEC... Guessing there won't likely be one at your local J/K yard...

The early SC's have 30lb inj, the '94 & '95 use 36lb...

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Reply #31
According to the part listing I posted,  The Cobra P/N is the same as the Super Coupes.....it's why I asked about the injector size on them.  It's also the same P/N on the '95 Cobra as well.  I'm pretty sure that has a different ECU than the '93, but not 100% on that one....  P/N is 85-4796.
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #32
Man,this is a lot more complicated than I had antited.I thought it would be as easy as changing the sensor and injectors from the 19's I'm using now to the 24's.Can the 19's support the E303 cam well?
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #33
If you're still runnin E7 heads it wouldn't take much more fuel pressure to get the 19's to work.  I'd start with 52 PSI with the vacuum line disconnected as a baseline and work from there.
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #34
What Taurus had 24lb/hr injectors? The 3.0 Duratech?
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #35
Vinnie, I ran stock pressure with the 19's and E-7's,you can boost it some I only went 24 because I put the afr's on.
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

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Reply #36
Quote from: kitzdnm;187247
Vinnie, I ran stock pressure with the 19's and E-7's,you can boost it some I only went 24 because I put the afr's on.


Good advice... No E7 headed 5.0 is gonna need more than 19s, unless they had a Sh** load of porting or it's pressurized.....

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Reply #37
I'm good and happy with that advice.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #38
Quote from: vinnietbird;187152
Man,this is a lot more complicated than I had antited.I thought it would be as easy as changing the sensor and injectors from the 19's I'm using now to the 24's.Can the 19's support the E303 cam well?


There was some kind of mass air variable resistor box, I purchased off ebay for a decent price which allows you dial in whatever injector size you need. The company though is out of business so that might say something. It works like some kind of dashpot deal 'mass air flow optimizer' lol.  It looked like something that could be fabbed from Radio Shack :mad: Anderson Ford Motorsports has one and it's probably pretty good but way too pricey.
You've come along well with the mass air and e cam setup, mine is still way behind. The lower intake's off because I don't feel like rig'n the pcv, the dude capped the pcv opening on the performer lower since he broke off the baffle. Ebay :beatyoass:
Keep the posts going with how the e cam works on the mass. Supposedly, it will even wake up the e7's :burnout:
 Good luck,
  Mike
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]88 t-bird: 5.0ho, gt40y, crane 2031, fms 1.7, paxton@5#, aod wide ratio, tci stall, performer rpm upper, 70mm bbk, pro m 60, 42#s, 3.73 7.5" posi, jba shorties, borla, upr x. 13.4 @ 104mph. cbaza, moates, tuned by decipha

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Reply #39
I'm still waiting to install the E303 (thanks Kitz for talking me into keeping it !!).I will when time allows.I've had so much going on lately,time is a rare commodity.I'll go ahead and install the cam and leave the fuel system alone,and if it seems I need to bump up the fuel pressure,I'll grab an AFP regulator at that time.The heads are slightly ported on the intake side,opened up to match the headers,the bowls were smoothed,and a 3 angle valve job,topped off with 1.6 roller rockers.I'll rebuild the 24# injectors when my rebuild kits arrive and sell them for a fair price to someone who needs them more than I do.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #40
What are your rpm's when you shift @ WOT?
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #41
WOT? It'll shift around 4500 since the shift kit was installed.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #42
That's it?  Stock pressure will be fine, but I'd see what I could do to get 600-700 more RPM up top.  Maybe more if possible.
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #43
Eventually,a new torque converter will be going in.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #44
you have the "HO" cam in it, right? 4500rpm is a really low shift point.
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