Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #15 – October 20, 2007, 08:07:17 PM I LOOOOOVE looking at my EFI engine.It's really nice now that I have my personally fabbed by Vinnietbird "one of none" Cobra intake on.Sweeeeet. Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #16 – October 20, 2007, 08:53:41 PM I prefer carb to efi because of the thousands of dollars you will spend trying to make the thing run correctly.First you have upper and lower intake,new mass meter,throttle body,new injectors every month to find the right ones,just goes on and on.Non injected set up first intake then carb, even easier to type.Don't get me wrong nothing like getting in your car if it's been sitting for a few months and it starts right up, try that with a carb not going to happen. I just feel that I could by a nice set of heads that will pick up some real improvement not more hassle.[COLOR="Red"]K. I. S. SKEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID[/COLOR] Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #17 – October 20, 2007, 09:30:14 PM My opinion and i'm entitled to it,just as he's entitled to his!!!It's called an ANDERSON PMS handheld tuner,i change something on my combo and i retune myself,no need for outside help.You wanna go carb your loss.As stated by many above, use the search button and look at tech and you'll get your answers but not by me. Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #18 – October 20, 2007, 10:37:18 PM this thread needs to be locked or have the garbage removed. this wasnt a "what's your opinion on EFI" thread. if you have no useful info for this topic, then dont reply.BTW, this subject has been covered many times, if you would just do a thorough search, you'll find your answer. Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #19 – October 20, 2007, 11:20:30 PM Quote from: dominator;183545My opinion and i'm entitled to it,just as he's entitled to his!!!It's called an ANDERSON PMS handheld tuner,i change something on my combo and i retune myself,no need for outside help.You wanna go carb your loss.As stated by many above, use the search button and look at tech and you'll get your answers but not by me.So you tune it yourself to be stock or not stock but still slow.:D Look at most fast natural aspirated engines you will see a carb 9 out of 10times, they are just better for hp unless you need to buy grocerys then EFI is more what you are looking for.Now for the wire removal I am still going through it and making it as small as possible but you need to check every wire to see their place and cross your fingers.Now I have found out that my front blinkers don't work but I remove a lot of wires so I can't complain. good luck, good choice for someone without a bottomless pocket.:burnout: Quote Selected
rewired Reply #20 – October 20, 2007, 11:39:00 PM on my 1984 t-bird it had a v-6 tbi automatic. i rewired with a harness from bumper to bumper from a 1983 t-bird that had a CARB v-6 auto, it made it very very easy to use my 306, 4 bbl carb, c-4 setup. cause the 83 used a duraspark 2 ignition setup, which if you are using an msd box they really like the setup. Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #21 – October 21, 2007, 12:23:33 AM Both sides have their ups and downs.It comes down to personal preference.No big deal either way as long as you're happy. Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #22 – October 21, 2007, 01:19:17 AM QuoteI'd rather change jets when I do a mod rather then go and get a tune.SInce when do you need to "get a tune" to modify an EEC-IV computer controlled 5.0? It'll help to extract every last hidden HP out, sure, but for most street 5.0's with even head, cam and intake manifold swaps and even bigger displacement a "tune" is not absolutely necessary. You can do many of the adjustments to get it run properly yourself just as you can with a carb.On YOUR car for some of the above mentioned mods, a mass air conversion may be required. Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #23 – October 21, 2007, 01:56:58 AM Hell I love my carbed stang and am glad to be back in something as simple and clean looking as a carbed engine bay. WAY less clutter. To each their own man. I say go carbed, especially if you DONT have thousands to throw at your car, hell I have thought about throwing my Edelbrock intake on my XR-7, (and would do it if it was just a regular Cougar...). Much easier AND cheaper for someone just getting into modifing cars to deal with. If you have a decent carb it should start right up after a few months of sitting. my '85 Cougar use to. three pumps of the gashiznit the key and it would crank right up. Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #24 – October 21, 2007, 09:56:28 AM If and when I put the 351 into my car it will be carbed. As 347Thunder pointed out, building a carb engine is much, much cheaper than going EFI, especially with a 351. If it was a daily driver I'd keep it EFI (heck, if it was a DD I'd not even consider the 351, what with gas as pricy as it is), but for an occasional blast through the country roads a carb is just the ticket... Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #25 – October 21, 2007, 10:13:22 AM I'm hoping for a 5.8 next fall.EFI,though. Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #26 – October 21, 2007, 12:45:05 PM all you need to do basicly is get you a duraspark box from and older carbed ford car, fix your pickup from the tank so it doesnt have the fuel pump on it but remains stable in the tank. plug the return side. and possibly run new line up to a mech. pump on the engine.Thats basically it. you coud make improvements like a MSD box instead of a durasparktheres going carb in a nutshell. Hell, If I didnt already have half the stuff... I'd go carb on my bird. Like others said earlier, it looks way cleaner, less wires, and SOOOO much easier to mod. If ya wanna change the cam.... do it! heads intake and cam with a good carb, you could make just above 300 hp easy for around 500$ if you play your cards right. EFI, you wanna make 300 hp, you need correct injectors computer, correct cam, correct calibrated MAF, hell even a chip if needed and all of that could cost upwards of 8-900$I say screw what everybody says, its your car. go carb! Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #27 – October 21, 2007, 09:56:46 PM Yep, I almost considered going carbed with my setup. I had it all planed out...Parker funnel web-ported to perfection of course and a 650 street demon. I think I would have made more top end HP, but I would have lost a bit of torque as a trade -off due to shorter intake runners. I would have spent a good bit less too. I love EFI but its hard to beat a good carbed set-up for simpicity.It took me 2 weeks to get my 308 to run good after fighting the ecm,tps and maf. then finally I got them to all play well together:hick: Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #28 – October 21, 2007, 10:47:12 PM I have the duraspark box.Nearly new.let me know if you'll be needing it.Good luck with the project. Quote Selected
Detailed writeup on eliminating EFI garbage from engine bay? Reply #29 – October 22, 2007, 07:35:17 PM Quote from: Thunder Chicken;183625If and when I put the 351 into my car it will be carbed. As 347Thunder pointed out, building a carb engine is much, much cheaper than going EFI, especially with a 351. If it was a daily driver I'd keep it EFI (heck, if it was a DD I'd not even consider the 351, what with gas as pricy as it is), but for an occasional blast through the country roads a carb is just the ticket...X2I just rebuilt my 302 w/no serious mods to upgrade the fuel injection or computer still running 19lbers but I did want to do a 351 block if that were the case was to go carb the difference to me was about 500 for a carb and intake to a completely upgraded injection system some even recommend if your going to spend the money on fuel injection to go completely after market. But like some said its his car as long as he’s happy. Quote Selected
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