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August 10, 2007, 08:22:43 AM

I'm only thinking out loud from a post that 4bangen made about the 'vert cougar bird transformation. in there someone had said T-tops on a bird would be a great idea. I'd like to explore that idea here. First thing that came to mind when someone said it was "it'd need a donor car." Were there any foxes with T-tops? If I were to try it, I think I would go with something like the bandit type Camaro that had T-Tops or maybe a Regal. I'm actually thinking the Camaro T-tops would fit the later birds, and Regals would fit the older versions. I'd expect would have to cut the roof out (like the f&f supra, how it had no roof but still had rear quarter glass) and weld in the donor car's roof. Since the T-topped cars structure of the roof goes right through the Middle, wouldn't the car need some bracing afterwards?

I'm not planning this, or even thinking about doing it. but I thought it would make a god topic to discuss when it comes to how it would be made to work.

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Reply #1 – August 10, 2007, 05:05:06 PM

ttft

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Reply #2 – August 27, 2007, 01:26:54 AM

Not a great idea at all. The roof structure of the fox birds and cats isn't strong enough. Anything is possible but it would take more work than its worth probibly. Oh and just for consideration some older fox stangs had T-tops.

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Reply #3 – August 27, 2007, 02:59:52 AM

I say, if you welded enough reenforcement into the roof structure and did it right, it would be sweet. You'd have to really think about where and how big the re-inforcements would be, and even with that, i'd do the whole subframe connector thing BEFORE chopping up the top. Make sure the Chassis can handle the lack of rigidity first, and then go ahead.

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Reply #4 – August 27, 2007, 08:46:05 AM

I'd think your biggest concern would be the doors. Mustangs (and Firebirds, and Camaros, and G-bodies, and just about every other car that had T-Tops) had "frameless" door windows. These cars have full "aircraft-style" frames. Something would have to be done to the top part of the door to allow T-Tops

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Reply #5 – August 27, 2007, 08:52:52 AM

Negative Ghostrider....

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Reply #6 – August 27, 2007, 08:59:16 AM

Quote from: Thunder Chicken;172278

I'd think your biggest concern would be the doors. Mustangs (and Firebirds, and Camaros, and G-bodies, and just about every other car that had T-Tops) had "frameless" door windows. These cars have full "aircraft-style" frames. Something would have to be done to the top part of the door to allow T-Tops

Exactly.. The door would look mighty stupid with a 2 foot long section of window frame missing.

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Reply #7 – August 27, 2007, 08:59:36 AM

I HAVE ALREADY LOOKED INTO THIS THE CLOEST THING I COULD FIND WAS THE LATE 80 BUICK reagles and monte carlos just bab the center roof section in and there ya go..........alot of fabing

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Reply #8 – August 27, 2007, 10:17:32 AM

When somebody has to YELL (or curse) to make there point I generally figure that the point there making is so very weak even THEY feel they must do something to reinforce it… hence the YELLING (or Cursing.. same motivation). At that point, aside from finding it very annoying I generally ignore them as idiots looking to feel they are something other than.

As for the door window’s.. my 1988 bird is already “frameless” and I see Autocat has an 87, I assume his would also be frameless.

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Reply #9 – August 27, 2007, 10:36:50 AM

Quote from: Jim_Miller;172313

As for the door window’s.. my 1988 bird is already “frameless” and I see Autocat has an 87, I assume his would also be frameless.

????

EVERY 83-88 Tbird Cougar has the big, honkin' window frame....
Yes the glas itself is not framed, but the way the doors are on these cars, T-Tops aren't really an option.

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Reply #10 – August 27, 2007, 10:51:26 AM

Your right... I'm still asleep

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Reply #11 – August 27, 2007, 11:02:54 AM

Jim,
Your bird isn't frameless and neither is mine. Carm is talking about the doors having metal that the windows roll up into. "Frameless" windows are just glass, when you open the door with the window down there is nothing above the beltline (like Subaru's and convertibles).

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Reply #12 – August 27, 2007, 11:03:23 AM

Wow, Chuck and Jim both beat me while I was typing. :hick:

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Reply #13 – August 27, 2007, 11:16:17 AM

lol all I can figure is I was thinking of the window as watching it while rolling it up from the drivers seat.. watching it go by on the way UP it appears frameless.. :hick:

I know frameless.. had Monti Carlo's for years.. just brain farted.

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Reply #14 – August 29, 2007, 05:15:59 PM

Quote from: Chuck W

EVERY 83-88 Tbird Cougar has the big, honkin' window frame....

Convertible doors are frameless.......:hick: Would anybody know if there are actual part nuber differences on them or are they converted by CarCraft (much more likely)