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Reply #120
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Running!!! - With Qwuirks...

Reply #121
Quote from: softtouch;165812
Would you mind describing the short/ground problem again.

While i had the car jacked up on the passenger front side (Leaning toward the drivers), I had no electrical difficulties.

But when i lowered the car back down (on all fours, leveled out), I went to start her up, And the first thing i noticed were the interior lights were dimmed... So i hit the ignition and nothing happened~except all interior and cluster lights went/faded out. (except for the engine light).

So after grabbing my meter and testing the battery and various other places, And not finding any reason for the power loss/drain.
I got in tried the ignition again, However this time i noticed as i sat down in the car the battery light flickered on the cluster...
So i hopped around a bit in the seat and the light flickered some more.

Eventually i found by standing on the drivers side door jamb and rocking the car back and forth~That it would restore full power back to everything...
After i started the engine up last time however, The shaking of the engine/idle caused the short/ground to go screwey again and go out~Making the engine die.
The rock the car trick fixed this again however...
~Project ThunderStorm = '84 Charcoal Thunderbird - First Car - Long Time Work in Progress~
~Project (No Name Yet) = 1970 Plymouth GTX/RR "Clone"~

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Reply #122
I duno man. Ya got me as of now

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Reply #123
Quote from: Romeo2k;165861
But when i lowered the car back down (on all fours, leveled out), I went to start her up, And the first thing i noticed were the interior lights were dimmed... So i hit the ignition and nothing happened~except all interior and cluster lights went/faded out. (except for the engine light).[\QUOTE]

Were the interior lights supposed to be on? Door was open?
Was this before you fixed the negative battery cable?

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So after grabbing my meter and testing the battery and various other places, And not finding any reason for the power loss/drain.
I got in tried the ignition again, However this time i noticed as i sat down in the car the battery light flickered on the cluster...
So i hopped around a bit in the seat and the light flickered some more.[\QUOTE]

The battery light should only come on if the ignition is in RUN.
Looks like a bad ignition switch

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The shaking of the engine/idle caused the short/ground to go screwey again and go out~Making the engine die.
The rock the car trick fixed this again however...


This also could be the ignition switch.

Don't know why the quotes didn't work .

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Reply #124
After reading what Softtouch posted... I vote ignition switch

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Reply #125
you should now be able to replicate the problem by banging or gyrating the steering wheel if the ign sw is bad.

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Reply #126
Nope, Cant get the power to drain/go out again...
I was banging on all kinds of stuff, Rocking The car back and forth from various angles, Nothing...

But the drivers side cat is still smoking like a chimney after the engine has been running for about 5 minutes, And once it starts smoking, It gets worse real quick...

Also, It just started smoking like crazy and revved it a few times and the engine sputtered very oddly, The smoke got really bad so i shut the car off.
And now when i have the ign switch on, Theres a loud BUZZZ coming from near the cluster that overwhelms the chiming of the "key in ignition, door open" alert.

*Dunno what the buzz is... Also noticed my lights are very lightly but noticebly draining briefly when i turn on or use anything electrical, I've had this problem since i got the car, Thought i had it fixed with the new battery... >.<

Anyway,
From reading up on stuff, I think my catalytic converter might be plugged up on the drivers side~or the air fuel mixture is running wrong~Or the fuel mixture is running too rich.
If it was clogged, wouldnt that explain why the engine is overheating? As well as the converter getting scorching hot. (cause the exhaust cant escape...?).
~Project ThunderStorm = '84 Charcoal Thunderbird - First Car - Long Time Work in Progress~
~Project (No Name Yet) = 1970 Plymouth GTX/RR "Clone"~

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Reply #127
if the converter was plugged it would run like a dog, or not run at all. i would cut the pipe off in front of the converter, to see if it revs any better.

as far as your electrical issues, i think your SOL. sounds like you'll need to trace back every wire looking for a short.
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Reply #128
Quote from: 32VFoxBird;166619
if the converter was plugged it would run like a dog, or not run at all. i would cut the pipe off in front of the converter, to see if it revs any better.

as far as your electrical issues, i think your SOL. sounds like you'll need to trace back every wire looking for a short.


Thats what I had to do with mine... it wasn't fun

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Reply #129
Quote from: 32VFoxBird;166619
if the converter was plugged it would run like a dog, or not run at all. i would cut the pipe off in front of the converter, to see if it revs any better.

as far as your electrical issues, i think your SOL. sounds like you'll need to trace back every wire looking for a short.

I read about drilling a hole ahead of the converter, Fitting a tube in and testing the pressure when it's revved... Just don't have a welder to patch it back up. >.<

And that sounds like loads of fun.... *sigh*

Maybe the buzz is some kind of warning noise? Has no one ever heard there bird or cat buzz from the cluster area before?
It kinda sounds like a fabricated/man made buzz and not an electrical malfunction... i think it's even coming from the same speaker or whatever the door chime comes from.

I'll get some error codes here soon, I'll either buy a code scanner tomorrow~or make one.
~Project ThunderStorm = '84 Charcoal Thunderbird - First Car - Long Time Work in Progress~
~Project (No Name Yet) = 1970 Plymouth GTX/RR "Clone"~

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Reply #130
I'd say overboost buzzer... but you don't have a TC

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Reply #131
Quote from: 84 Fila;166625
I'd say overboost buzzer... but you don't have a TC


I wish. ;-(
~Project ThunderStorm = '84 Charcoal Thunderbird - First Car - Long Time Work in Progress~
~Project (No Name Yet) = 1970 Plymouth GTX/RR "Clone"~

Running!!! - With Qwuirks...

Reply #132
hold your nuts the right way,, it might fix somethin:D

jk

no, dont drill,, remove your o2's and rev it up or just loosen the headers a little leaving the hardware in place and see if that helps.

the converter being clogged will show up best at night.  they usually glow orangeish red.  your lucky,, just undo the bolts after the main cat, start stuffing a pipe up in there till all that  crunches up and then rev the motor and shoot it out the ass end.  repeat until empty and rebolt up.

that buzzing noise,,, flick your wiper lever a couple times and see if it goes away.  when the wiper switch hoses up, they like to buzz and get stuck in mid stroke.  BTW(it sucks to be in mid stroke and get stuck with a hurt back):D

now

whats the fuel presure while running
whats the compression numbers
what does your oil look like in texture ect
what does the oil smell like
have you removed your valve covers to verify each valve is moving
have you cleaned your ACT sensor/o2 sensor
have you measured the resistance of all injectors
have you felt each injector while running to see if each one is clicking
did you ever FARKING replace the egr base gasket (best listen to me on that one)


i know this is going nuts on you,, sounds like you really need a second hand

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Reply #133
LOL

Nah, Feel free to go nuts. :laughing:
Truth is i need all the help i can get. :flip:

Wow, i got a little behind on your tests >.<
I'll get it on it soon, I had to do some other work the last few days.

I'll be moving the car over to the side driveway, And getting the carport ready for her here at some point.
They claim rain for the next few days though. *sigh*

Something my dad mentioned today though... And i REALLY need to tend to.
He asked about my transmission fluid, Because it might could cause some problems...
I'm all like: Yea... Uhm... I've completely forgot to check that...
So i run out and check the levels... And the dipstick is nearly dry. :flame:
*Waits to get bish slapped*
~Project ThunderStorm = '84 Charcoal Thunderbird - First Car - Long Time Work in Progress~
~Project (No Name Yet) = 1970 Plymouth GTX/RR "Clone"~

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Reply #134
What does trans fluid have to do with it running?