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Reply #30 – May 15, 2007, 12:00:14 PM

the spout connector in the 4.6 cars is called an octane adj. pull it and it backs the timing down 3*. and the interior is junk. at the shop i work at we have a bunch of customers with them. the interiors litterly fall apart from normal wear and tear. mechanically they are sound though. i kinda like them. the mark 8 is nicer but they have the same problems with the int trim.

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Reply #31 – May 15, 2007, 12:05:46 PM

Quote from: slamedcat;147358

I have a few more question I would like an answer for that you guys might know.

1. Why is there a spout connector under the hood on my 96?

Do you have two or just one of those short plugs at the shock tower? One is an octane plug, used to remove timing. If you do have two, the other is to remove timing control from the computer.

Quote from: slamedcat;147358

2. Why is there an EEC connector in the glove box?

I believe that is the test connector for the speed sensitive steering.

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Reply #32 – May 15, 2007, 12:39:07 PM

Too much plastic in the interior. The seats are horrible. My 97 had the low back leather seats and there was no back support. After a cross country trip my back was wrecked for a month. That didn't happen when I drove my 87 from WA to TX with the TC seats. That and the fact that my wifes 3.5 V6 makes more power than the 4.6 V8... sad!

They are also very expensive to maintain and not easy to work on. If it breaks it goes to the dealer. I'm glad I got rid of mine.

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Reply #33 – May 15, 2007, 01:02:29 PM

Quote from: JeremyT;147363

Do you have two or just one of those short plugs at the shock tower? One is an octane plug, used to remove timing. If you do have two, the other is to remove timing control from the computer.

I think there is only one but why would I have to remove timeing from the computer it is a coil pack setup. There is no way to set base timing on it.

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Reply #34 – May 15, 2007, 01:31:52 PM

Quote from: slamedcat;147376

I think there is only one but why would I have to remove timeing from the computer it is a coil pack setup. There is no way to set base timing on it.

Yes, setting the base timing on a distributor-based engine is one of those functions used by the plug. But it's also used for other diagnostics. The SCs, which also had the distributorless ignition, had both a "spout" and an "octane" plug.

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Reply #35 – May 15, 2007, 02:19:58 PM

After reading this I still like my 94 Cougar XR7. It only cost me $200 with body damage. That is amost fixed. I only have $400 total into it now and that inculdes the paint I bought. All in all I like the mn-12 not near as much as I like my 84 turbo coupe but all in all they are nice cars. I know the 4.6 in mine has way more power than my old 88 cat 3.8l. They seats are comfy just not as racecar like as my birds. I also like the wrap around style of the dash in the 94 up mn'12's. I did almost buy at 94 brand new once. So I might be a little partial on the subject. All in all the Mn-12's are nice cars but they aren't a Fox Bird/Cougar by any means. So if you want a nice car that is still a bird/cougar go ahead and buy a Mn-12 at least there are front engind rear drive. Unlike all these import and many domestic cars/vans/trucks out there. I will also note that they did some changes to the radiator support between 93 and 94. The only differences is things are reworked to accept Air Bag sensors and such. The brackets for the rad and the condesor are in different locations. So I had to make new holes when I put the 93 rad support in my 94. Nothing major other than making mounting holes for things.

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Reply #36 – May 15, 2007, 02:54:51 PM

Quote from: dudeman351;147362

the spout connector in the 4.6 cars is called an octane adj. pull it and it backs the timing down 3*. and the interior is junk. at the shop i work at we have a bunch of customers with them. the interiors litterly fall apart from normal wear and tear. mechanically they are sound though. i kinda like them. the mark 8 is nicer but they have the same problems with the int trim.

Actually, you can see that the early 4.6L in the MN12 did in fact have both. They are not the same thing. I think later MN12 4.6L (1996+) did change.

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Reply #37 – May 15, 2007, 02:56:18 PM

The octopus is strangling the motor!!!!

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Reply #38 – May 15, 2007, 03:18:58 PM

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Reply #39 – May 15, 2007, 03:19:23 PM

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Originally Posted by slamedcat
2. Why is there an EEC connector in the glove box?

I confirmed it is for the speed sensitive system, which Ford calls "EVO" (Electronic Variable Orifice).

You will also find another EEC-type test connector under the hood near the battery and left shock tower, if your vehicle is equipped with ABS. That connector is for the ABS system.

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Reply #40 – May 15, 2007, 05:13:55 PM

Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;147360

The interior went to plastic hell in months.

Did you or any other family member treat the dash with stuff like turtle wax tire shine? Thats what i use and the dash in the 87 still has not cracked.

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Reply #41 – May 15, 2007, 05:43:24 PM

I love the wrap around interior my 94 cougar had. if it would fit in my 86, i would swap it out in a heartbeat.

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Reply #42 – May 15, 2007, 08:38:31 PM

Quote from: 86 night cat;147446

I love the wrap around interior my 94 cougar had. if it would fit in my 86, i would swap it out in a heartbeat.

you can make anything fit. Time Money and and a DD are needed though

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Reply #43 – May 15, 2007, 10:05:47 PM

I had a 90 Super Coupe 5spd , aka the money pit. Love the ride and the power, mine had some serious wheel hop. The one thing I loved about the car is it's motor man it just kept pulling and pulling. What I hated about it was the fact the dealer ships never stocked a thing for it. Even the Autozones, and Orielys, Pep Boys never even had my alternator when it went out. wtf
Also the abs pump motor went out twice money money money. shiznit for them is ridiculously expensive and the sparkplug change the first time man. Atleast a few years ago they were.
loved that car wish i would've never got rid of it!

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Reply #44 – May 15, 2007, 10:12:54 PM

I had a '92 5 speed. Ran the piss out of it, broke it, fixed it, broke it again. I hope I never see it again. It gave me nightmares.